Mosin Nagant bolt action VS Mauser bolt

I've yet to see an RC K98k that operated as slickly as an original, or even a Yugo or East German refurb, for that matter. The russians didn't put much effort into matching bolts up with receivers, so you often get either a very sloppy or overly tight bolt-to-receiver fit. Also, the bedding is often AWFUL on RCs. Oh well.

As for Mosin bolt disassembly, there is a great tutorial with pictures that even includes how to set firing pin protrusion written by yours truly at Milsurps.com in the technical articles forum ;) (hint-hint)
 
Now I want to compare to a friend's 1916 Erfurt marked K98A. I would think that the pre-WWII rifles would be nicer yet.

If I had the scratch for an all-matching bringback K98k I'd be first in line. Then the poor thing would probably live in a safe for the rest of its life the way values are shooting up...
 
1903 Springfield

ilovepotatos said:
The Mosin's bolt is the most complicated to take down. In that aspect I find it is the weakest. This is an effective point to bring up, as ammo back then was corrosive, and a rusty bolt will affect safety as well as performance.

Also, the Mosin's bolt has more cycling issues (granted, they are amplified with unmatching bolts, but they still are more common than any other rifle), and as such the rifle is prone to poor cycling rates.

The gun works. It worked during the worst Russian winter in 100 years, since the tolerances are so low. Those same low tolerances make it a very undesireable gun to use, compared to a Mauser or Lee Enfield. I cannot comment on the Springfield as I've never even SEEN one in person, but it's similar to the Mauser in many aspects.
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In regards to the cycling of my 1903 Springfield; I find it smoother and requires less effort than any of my K98 series rifles. Thats coming from a German.:evil:
 
the mauser action is blocked open by the magazine follower when empty.. like a semi auto.
I find this to be enormously stupid.

every one I've used also feels extremely rickety and sloppy

My favourite is the enfield, second is the mosin, mauser doesn't count for me because I don't enjoy using them at all.
 
BBq_Woa! said:
the mauser action is blocked open by the magazine follower when empty.. like a semi auto.
I find this to be enormously stupid.
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I totally disagree!! I think this is a great idea. The mauser action isn't the only one like this. The SVT also stays open by the mag follower when its empty. It facilitates reloading. You don't have any extra steps to reload. Just replace your ammo, close bolt, shoot. Easy.
 
summerside sniper said:
I totally disagree!! I think this is a great idea. The mauser action isn't the only one like this. The SVT also stays open by the mag follower when its empty. It facilitates reloading. You don't have any extra steps to reload. Just replace your ammo, close bolt, shoot. Easy.
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Indeed, it keeps the bolt from sliding closed while reloading under fire.
I think it is a good system. It took me a while the other day to get used to my Mosin bolt sliding closed when I tipped the muzzle forward during reloading. :D

My Pattern 14 enfield also has this bolt hold open feature.
 
ilovepotatos said:
The Mosin's bolt is the most complicated to take down. In that aspect I find it is the weakest. This is an effective point to bring up, as ammo back then was corrosive, and a rusty bolt will affect safety as well as performance.

Also, the Mosin's bolt has more cycling issues (granted, they are amplified with unmatching bolts, but they still are more common than any other rifle), and as such the rifle is prone to poor cycling rates.
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are you drunk?! The mosin bolt is so easy to take down, even a drunken russian conscript can do it blindfolded. As far as mismatched bolt mosins go, I'd say they're the best! Ever played with a Finn Mosin? They (with their mismatched bolts)are far smoother than the all matching postwar Russian and Hungarian ones I've owned. Mausers are great, too, but if I had to chose one to take into the field...Enfield:D and a bottle of SRD.
 
BBq_Woa! said:
the mauser action is blocked open by the magazine follower when empty.. like a semi auto.
I find this to be enormously stupid.

every one I've used also feels extremely rickety and sloppy

My favourite is the enfield, second is the mosin, mauser doesn't count for me because I don't enjoy using them at all.
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Most of the current refurbs have poorpy matched up bolts causing all the slop. the originals were nowhere near as sloppy. Try a nice 1909 Argentine or 1908 Brazillian mauser with matching bolt and you'll have a good idea what a non-refurb K98k botl is supposed to feel like.

Also, the bolt hold-open is an important feature for MILITARY use. Imagine lying prone and having to raise your head up to look for ammo if you lost count of rounds fired. Forget that. No way am I raising my head on a ww2 battlefield. The bolt holdopen is a much better idea to let me know when I need to reload ;)
 
Claven2 said:
Also, the bolt hold-open is an important feature for MILITARY use. Imagine lying prone and having to raise your head up to look for ammo if you lost count of rounds fired. Forget that. No way am I raising my head on a ww2 battlefield. The bolt holdopen is a much better idea to let me know when I need to reload ;)
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Yah there might be a guy with a fully loaded 10 round Enfield that has been sniping at you with his cut off plate slid into place...just waiting for your head to come up. :D
 
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