Mosin Nagant Scout Scope Recomendations

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I picked up a Mosin Nagant rifle at Canadian Tire of all places, and I've seen some videos on Youtube where the rear sight is removed and the dovetail base underneath the rear sight is used to mount a scout style scope using rimfire rifle rings. Anyway I thought the idea was pretty cool, but I wanted to roll the idea by you CGNers before I go ahead.

Is there anything I need to beware of?
Can I just get high rings for a 22 rimfire and I'm good to go?
Can you recommend a decent waterproof scope that wont cost more than the rifle - nothing that takes batteries?
Can you recommend the ideal steel rings to use?

I don't want to spend 400 bucks scoping a 140 dollar loaner/backup rifle.

What would be really cool is something that has an older look to it, so it looks like it sort of "belongs" on it.

Any thoughts or advice?

Here's a video on it.

 
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I've done it. Researched it on line at first, most articles advised putting a "groove" in the .22 rings so they have something to catch on, or else it will slide.

I thought to hell with it and just got some good steel rings and got them tight. Went to the range, after only 10 rounds it had moved over an inch forward... I do believe it is feasible, I'll cut a groove on the rings to match the pins on the barrel, hopefully it will hold.

I used Warne rings (steel)
 
I saw a video where he put a notch in the ring to align with the pin holes and used the pins to keep the scope from moving forward.
 
Magellann said:
Why not get a reproduction PU scope and mount for it, it will look like a sniper mode, and they can be had reasonably.
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John Sukey said:
Always thought a "scout rifle" was a solution in search of a problem:rolleyes:
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One of the problems of the PU repro scope mounts is cost vs original cost of the gun when you look at the scope, mount, gunsmithing to get it put on, getting a bent bolt installed, etc. I also don't like permanently altering the rifle, i know mosins aren't exactly rare collectors, but that's just me.
There are a few mounts out there that have a long rail that clamps on to the dovetail and have much more surface area to hold that just a set of .22 rings, so they may slide less. I have seen this type both with rings built in as one piece, or a dovetail to weaver adapter, which you could then put any normal rings on.
For available scout scopes, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of choice. I have seen simmons pistol scopes, NcStar and AIM knockoffs available in canada, you may be able to find othe rbrands/makes, but they are a little harder to come by.
 
Well you can get away with pistol scopes on a scout mount, but you better line up perfectly every single time because you will have parralax problems opening up your groups.

I have tried the budget method of doing a pistol scope on a scout mount on an israeli 98k and I didn't like it. It was even more front heavy, paralax was an issue past 50yards and groups were not what I expected. Also, EER pistol scopes have eye relief farther out than a true IER scout scope, you may/may not have issues with eye relief.

IMO mount a traditional scope, or buck up for the only 2 REAL scout scopes out there, the leupold FX-2 or the burris scout. If you aren't going to get either of those 2 scout scopes, you are wasting your time and won't be happy with the results.

I run a scout on my marlin 1894C with the leupy fx-2 scout and its a fast screamer and I can put out decent 3.5" groups at 100yards with factory ammo, not bad for my bad eyes on a pistol caliber carbine that is only expected to perform 100-150yards max.
 
I've got an M44 with a $25 scout mount (rear sight replacement) and an NC Star 2-7X scope.

It shoots about 1.5" at 100 yards and can clang an 8" going at 300 yards bascially all day. Setup is quite sturdy and I've had no issues with it.

It's actually one of my mosted used rifles, as the rifle itself is pretty well worn (so no worries about scratching it), but runs slick, so it comes with me on fishing and ATV'ing outings quite regularly.

The only thing I did different was bed the scout mount to the rear sight area using JB weld, in order to get a perfect fit. Looks crappy, but quickly and easily done, and provides a solid, "no wiggle" fit. And being bedded, but not actually glued on, the thing can come off in two minutes if I want it to.
 
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I think they work wonderfully on lever carbines firing pistol ammo.

With the low magnification and ranges under 150yards which is pretty much all thats expected with a pistol carbine, you can be very quick and accurate with them to a high degree. To me its an ideal combination.

I'm not so hot on them with full rifle cartridges as the original concept was laid out...

sunray said:
"...a "scout rifle" was a solution in search of a problem..." Hi, John. It's one of Cooper's more stupid ideas.
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I've found scout mounted scopes on milsurps allow you to have optics without D&T, and you can go back to sights any time.

For me, once ranges get past 100 yards, I am way better off with even a scout scope over open sights. No way I would shoot a bear at 300 yards with open sights on a sporterized milsurp, but no big deal if it's got optics.

If I was only shooting targets, or beer cans at the gravel pit, then open sights would be fine.
 
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