Mosin Nagant

Helka

Helka

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Hello CGN’ers

Been doing extensive research on the beloved Mosin Nagant. Looking to buy my first firearm. I have a few questions regarding the Nagant.

1) i know the hex receiver is considered more desirable and more expensive then the round. Is it only because it was manufactured prior to a certain date and hence it’s more “rare”. I know that hex vs round has no bearing on the quality of the gun and or shooting accuracy of the gun.

2) would purchasing a mis-matched serial gun shoot worse then an all matching gun. Or is it again more aesthetics and collectible to have an all matching?

I’ve searched all the possible sites that still carry regular mosin’s Vs the PU version. I see some say that their numbers are matching but something to the effect that they are force matched??? So not really truly matching I’m guessing?

Looking to get into a mosin preferably truly matching for under $300. It may be a pipe dream. I don’t have access to EE yet. Funds are currently tight as I have a baby due in the coming week or so. Would love to get one before the little champ arrives.
 
Love the Mosin, I have a sniper version and it is great. I bought it as a shooter and have added a new trigger, modern scope mount and scope, and bedding parts, not a modern sniper rifle but for its era, no issue doing what it was designed to do in warfare.
Regarding the hex receiver, just a collector and date of mfg thing
Regarding mismatch, I would try and get the receiver and bolt matching if you can, other than that, other parts don't really matter IMHO.
Lots of fake snipers out there so be careful, plus it will cost you a lot more than $300.
 
Look for best looking and clean bored rifle. MN is the best rifle in there to collect, there is no way to just stop at one.
Things to look for in mn is fit and bore condition, the rest is not really important, as through out history mn is hotchpotch of parts that were assembled at various arsenals to just shoot and be reliable. So don't worry about it, get the one that has best bore possible and has prettiest stock. Receiver doesn't really matter.
Good luck in your new hobby.
G76
 
If funds are a factor, I wouldn't pay extra for the hex. Buy the gun, not the story. (Am I even allowed to say that in the Milsurp section?) After the war, Mosins were stripped down, cosmolined up, put back together not necessarily matching, and stored. Now you and I can enjoy a solid shooter for much less than other Milsurp. What I would look for if I were you is the condition of the boomstick itself. How does the barrel look? Is the crown ok? To get the most out of it accuracy wise, slug the barrel to figure out what size rounds will work best, assuming you plan to reload. Depending on your arm length, you may also want to get something to adjust the length of the stock (Canadian tire sells cheap slip on but pads, online you can find but pads specifically made for Mosins.)

While it might seem like a good idea to buy one still covered in cosmoline because it has a 'new' feeling, I'd go with one that someone has already shot and can clarify that if you do your part, it will perform well.

A mosin was one of my first rifles I ever bought. Kicked like a S.o.b. I broke myself in and lost my flinch by shooting a bunch of trap at new shooter nights at my local range. Once my shoulder got used to being kicked around by a 12g constantly, 7.62 Russian was more manageable.

Congratulations on the new family member btw.
 
Thanks Alex_Zues. Thanks for the input will definitely make a list to look for in a mosin. Really excited to buy a mosin. Oh and baby too lmao. Our first. Sleepless nights ahead i’m sure.
 
Grab a 91/30 before the prices get through the roof. You will enjoy shooting it, either with milsurp (corrosive) ammo, new factory, or reloads. Get a can of FLUID FILM, clean the barrel after a shoot. There are several good sites that deal with Mosin Nagant rifles. Much good info can be gathered from them.

Go to it and have fun! Buying MN's is a never ending process, so settle in and enjoy!
 
I hope you know that the Mosin-Nagant kicks like a mule? This can be very unpleasant for a first time shooter. If you really don't want to
start with a .22lr in order to learn the basics (highly recommended) be sure to get some sort of pad to put on the end of the stock - butt pad.
 
Hex receivers represent early production and Soviet haste to get into production. Seen a couple with edges sharp enough to cut your fingers on. Can't see the appeal in them.

Grizz
 
Or you could save a bit more money and buy a nice Swedish Mauser. 1000x the gun and still reasonably priced.
No crates of garbage surplus ammo to had for the Swedes though.
 
Thanks guys. I’ve looked into the 22lr’s but the price point for the mosin blows the 22’s out of the water. Plus like you’ve mentioned the mosin packs a good punch.

I’m also looking to get into a Russian made Tokarev TT33. At $250 it cant be beat. My dream hand gun if I could afford it would be Smith and Wesson M&P40. Really like the feel of it.
 
Bore and crown condition are important. Forced matched are due to a rebuild at arsenal. This often leads to it being a better rifle than one that was not refurbed and dragged across Europe for years before landing on our shores.
Sticky bolt is another issue to watch for, some Mosins can have difficulty either chambering a round or ejecting a spent casing. Unfortunately, this is something that can't be positively concluded until the rifle is in your hands or fired.
 
Helka said:
Thanks guys. I’ve looked into the 22lr’s but the price point for the mosin blows the 22’s out of the water. Plus like you’ve mentioned the mosin packs a good punch.

I’m also looking to get into a Russian made Tokarev TT33. At $250 it cant be beat. My dream hand gun if I could afford it would be Smith and Wesson M&P40. Really like the feel of it.
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No, they really dont. The moaisn does kicks harder, is alot louder and with the steel butt plate will almost guaranteed give you a flinch, being a new shooter the mosin has so many things you'd want to avoid, big recoil with a steel butt pad, trigger so bad it feels like a barn door latch, bad sights, bad safety, quite long and heavy and more than likely bad fit and finish. For the price of a mosin and ammo a nice 22 could be had, one which would allow you to practice and learn the basic fundamentals with a rifle that uses very cheap and commonly available ammo, a nicer trigger and sights, nicer fit and finish, better safety and something that the wife the little one would more likely enjoy and could learn on. I have two mosins, a 91/30 and m38, i like them but within my modest surplus collection they are by far the crudest of the lot, fun but a poor first firearm IMO, i think the history and for the time being comparatively low price of the rifle and ammo are the only things going for them.
 
Watch the EE, I've picked up a couple mosins in the 3-400$ range with aftermarket stocks and timney triggers. Good shooters, re crowned both and got an improvement right away.
 
Don't be dissuaded by this talk of harsh recoil, no issue with a cheap rubber recoil pad which you typically need anyway because of the short stock. IMHO, everyone should have at least one Mosin, SKS, a Lee Enfield and an 8mm Mauser. More fun than modern rifles.
 
Chas59 said:
Don't be dissuaded by this talk of harsh recoil, no issue with a cheap rubber recoil pad which you typically need anyway because of the short stock. IMHO, everyone should have at least one Mosin, SKS, a Lee Enfield and an 8mm Mauser. More fun than modern rifles.
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I concur. A 22 is a better starter, but nothing wrong with a Mosin.
That kicks like a mule legend... well, if you are recoil sensitive perhaps. My daughters both shot M/N's as youth's...shot them well too. Like; 'Butthurt Boyfriend' good shooting, hurts to get outshot by your GF, lol.
Perhaps recoil tolerance is a learned thing.
Get a M/N that's had it's cherry broken by Bubba, cheaper and fun to tweak too
 
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