It is a very touchy subject. You NEVER brag about bubbaing or altering a milsurp in a milsurp forum. I have gone into blind rages hearing or seeing people destroy history, Why on earth would someone take beautiful rifle, slap some hokey s*** all over it and make a poor man's hunting/target rifle? If you want a scoped rifle for target or hunting, buy a new one and have at 'er. If you want to enjoy history and ensure it is still here for future generations, buy a milsurp, lovingly restore it and treat 'er well.
Mosin Nagant
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It is a very touchy subject. You NEVER brag about bubbaing or altering a milsurp in a milsurp forum. I have gone into blind rages hearing or seeing people destroy history, Why on earth would someone take beautiful rifle, slap some hokey s*** all over it and make a poor man's hunting/target rifle? If you want a scoped rifle for target or hunting, buy a new one and have at 'er. If you want to enjoy history and ensure it is still here for future generations, buy a milsurp, lovingly restore it and treat 'er well.
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LOL... Congrats on finding a pre-bubba'd project rifle. I wish you luck and look forward to seeing the finished product.
That is f***ing unforgivable.
bubba's M44
Well boys,
I did her and bought the bubba'd M44 from Ellwood Epps for $150.00. The bolt handle has been changed to a ATI sporter bolt, and it has an ATI scope mount already added. The stock has been stained a greyish colour, but overall its looks fine.
I will change the colour of the stock back to the original. But I will leave the rest the same. I will mount a scope to it, and I hope to carry the rifle on moose and deer hunts in honour of our past soldiers. Sorry y'all. I will be happy to keep the rest of it as is. The bubba'd parts, I did not do. Bought it that way.
Well boys,
I did her and bought the bubba'd M44 from Ellwood Epps for $150.00. The bolt handle has been changed to a ATI sporter bolt, and it has an ATI scope mount already added. The stock has been stained a greyish colour, but overall its looks fine.
I will change the colour of the stock back to the original. But I will leave the rest the same. I will mount a scope to it, and I hope to carry the rifle on moose and deer hunts in honour of our past soldiers. Sorry y'all. I will be happy to keep the rest of it as is. The bubba'd parts, I did not do. Bought it that way.
If anyone else has the urge to Bubba an M44, there is a nice 1953 Polish carbine in the EE that someone took a freaking hacksaw to and cut the bayonet mount off... Bubba did not even bother to file the cut smooth or put blueing on it. Sigh.
I saw that and probably had the same reaction as you... Blaarghlfff!
Performing a bub' job on a Mosin Nagant (or any milsurp today) doesn't really make much sense anyway. For the money you spend on a scope, stock, mount, bolt handle, and scope, plus all the funds to get it assembled, you wind up paying money to de-vaule a rifle that isn't nearly as good as a modern hunting rifle.... for its intended purpose.
The safety is basically non-existant because it's so difficult to engage and disengage. Combine that with a simple trigger mechanism design suitable for a flint-lock musket, obsolete ammo, and the fact that the upward pressure of the front 2 inches of stock has been sawed off with the rest of the forearm, making the rifle more prone to barrel droop with sustained fire... what's the point?
Seriously.
For the same amount of money, or less than $50-$100 more, you can get a brand new Stevens 200 in a modern calibre that you can find at Wal-Mart or Crappy Tire.
Why bother?
It's just easier and more fun to shoot it as is.
Bubba'ing an un-bubba'd milsurp makes no sense from any practical sense today. I'm glad you found one that was already tampered with by someone without any practical or financial sense.
The safety is basically non-existant because it's so difficult to engage and disengage. Combine that with a simple trigger mechanism design suitable for a flint-lock musket, obsolete ammo, and the fact that the upward pressure of the front 2 inches of stock has been sawed off with the rest of the forearm, making the rifle more prone to barrel droop with sustained fire... what's the point?
Seriously.
For the same amount of money, or less than $50-$100 more, you can get a brand new Stevens 200 in a modern calibre that you can find at Wal-Mart or Crappy Tire.
Why bother?
It's just easier and more fun to shoot it as is.
Bubba'ing an un-bubba'd milsurp makes no sense from any practical sense today. I'm glad you found one that was already tampered with by someone without any practical or financial sense.
Thank Dar 701. I dont own nor I've never seen more than a few other images of the firearm in question therefore its hard to tell what make it is, although I beleive its a 1946 build. This was an offered trade for a Remington 870 Express I am selling.
The metal work and wood condition is far too nice to be a 1946 M44 as the Russians were the only ones cranking them out in 1946. Poles made them from 1951-1956, they are first rate rifles; the fit and finish rivals that of upper end hunting rifles available today. If it is worth it to you, the trade your 870 Express on it. I would not, as one can get a new unmolested example for about 300, which would be on par with a 870 Express for price and kill it on build quality.
Hey there fellas. Just to update you all. I finally purchased an M44 MN. It was made in Poland in 1955. The metal and bore are superb, the stock needed a re-finishing job, the trigger is beautiful, but the bolt handle had been changed to an ATI, and it was drilled for an ATI scope mount.
Well I redid the stock to as close as original as I could, cleaned it up. Now I want to leave the rest as is. I have changed my mind about sporterizing it. I think it look good as is.
Just as to not tick you all off, maybe you all can like me again, since I cleaned up a semi-bubba's MN instead, and actually put it back into service.
As soon as my camera is returned, I will post pictures, and you can all give me an opinion. See you then. Ruger1962
Well I redid the stock to as close as original as I could, cleaned it up. Now I want to leave the rest as is. I have changed my mind about sporterizing it. I think it look good as is.
Just as to not tick you all off, maybe you all can like me again, since I cleaned up a semi-bubba's MN instead, and actually put it back into service.
As soon as my camera is returned, I will post pictures, and you can all give me an opinion. See you then. Ruger1962
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maybe you all can like me again
Having a strong opinion about whether you should do something with your rifle is not about us liking or disliking you...
I've just realized I've never seen a Polish M44 up close...Is it a shellac finish?
Looking forward to pictures.
Having a strong opinion about whether you should do something with your rifle is not about us liking or disliking you...
I've just realized I've never seen a Polish M44 up close...Is it a shellac finish?
Looking forward to pictures.
My M44 MN
When I purchased the rifle, someone had refinished it an a horrible greyish coloured stain. I took me about 5 hours to strip, sand etc and then I applied a red mahongany stain. I settled on this stain after looking at original Polish M44's. I thne applied 4 coats of outers gunstock oil. Its result is absolutely beautiful. So much so that I will keep the stock on it. The rest of the rifle remains as is. My son has returned for xmas and has returned by camera so I will post a picture.
My rifle is absolutely pristine, It would pass as new, unissued. do not know for sure though.
But I have done lots of reading and the Polish M44 were considered as the best quality in terms of its machining and woodwork. A picture will appear very shortly.
When I purchased the rifle, someone had refinished it an a horrible greyish coloured stain. I took me about 5 hours to strip, sand etc and then I applied a red mahongany stain. I settled on this stain after looking at original Polish M44's. I thne applied 4 coats of outers gunstock oil. Its result is absolutely beautiful. So much so that I will keep the stock on it. The rest of the rifle remains as is. My son has returned for xmas and has returned by camera so I will post a picture.
My rifle is absolutely pristine, It would pass as new, unissued. do not know for sure though.
But I have done lots of reading and the Polish M44 were considered as the best quality in terms of its machining and woodwork. A picture will appear very shortly.
