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Ok, so I'm planning on picking up a Mosin nagant soon, I was wondering if any current or previous owners could tell me a little bit about them. As in, are there any parts that ware down often. How accurate are they really? I've heard they are accurate, but never had a clean answer directed to me that they are. And the last and probably most important, would a nagant make a half decent hunting gun. I plan to go hunting in the fall with a friend who plans to buy a tikka, so he is probably going to do most of the shooting, I was just wondering would I be able to effectively hunt with a nagant?


I plan to buy one in the near future anyway as I like WW 2 era firearms and plan to collect them. I'm just looking for some information about it.


Thanks.
 
totally accurate, never wear down.
youll get one for cheap, clean it up, buy tons of cheap milsurp ammo, clean your bore with boiling water and an oiled patch every time, and it'll last forever.
 
yeah, they are pretty tough rifles. Just clean them good if your shooting corrosive ammo.

Welcome to the never ending WWII collection. It always starts with just one.... then you end up like Klunk of Claven2! :p

Or at least hope to archive something similar.. before they buy everything!
 
There are better rifles for hunting, but the Mosin certainly does the job if you get a good one.

Nothing wears out. I've shot bears and a deer out to 100 yards with one.
 
"...a half decent hunting gun..." Yep. Sighted in with hunting ammo the rifle shoots well, your Moisin will take any game you care to hunt. Mind you, nearly all W.W. II era milsurps make good, inexpensive hunting rifles. Lots of hunters use nothing but. Know a guy who takes a moose every year with a bubba'd No. 4 Lee-Enfield. He says it works, why spend the money for another rifle.
 
I just shot my 91/30 for the first time this past weekend and greatly enjoyed it. I had to aim several inches to the left to centre it on the target at 100m, though some sight adjustment the next time that I take her out will fix that. I also had to tighten some of the action screws after a couple of groups, though I suspect that they were a bit loose to start. The trigger was a bit heavy but managable, and the longer barrel seemed to keep the recoil within reasonable limits for the 35 rounds that I fired. The only other issue that I had was with cycling the action which felt stiff at times, but that was probably due to cosmoline in the chamber that got warm and sticky after a few shots, which is common to Mosins that have been put into storage. With the sights adjusted I would have no hesitancy using it as a hunting rifle out to 100yds (I can probably do that as is), and perhaps further once I've had the opportunity to see how she performs at 200metres. It' more likely a 150 yard rifle for me at my current level of proficiency.

At around $150 for an arsenal refurbished example, this seems like a decent choice for someone who wants something a bit more powerful than an SKS or a preference for bolt-actions. As long as you clean it after firing corrosive ammo, and fire enough hunting ammo to sight it in properly, these rifles should serve you well.

Good Luck!

Frank
 
shotgunjoe said:
?????Safety?????
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Mosins do have a safety. A poor one that's hard to use but it's there ;) Twist the cocking piece to the left (I think) so that it lodges on the receiver. Can't fire then.
 
M39

The Mosin-Nagant rifle is a typically simple, robust and trustworthy Russian design. Its bolt is reminiscent of early Mausers, pre 1898. Parts are interchangeable. The bolt can be disassembled and reassembled into its component parts by hand. Conversely, it has the slickest magazine and follower spring I have ever seen. I believe that the Finnish versions of the 91/30 are the best the design has to offer. I base this on the fact that I own several examples: Finnish 1891 Remington 1917 Peter the Great, Tikka M27 and a Sako M39. Not to mention the Finnish armory was filled by the weapons of fallen Russian invaders. I find it quite accurate: 3"@200yd. The 7.62x54R is abundantly available as surplus and will knock down anything in North America. The best part is, you can get a 91/30 for under $200.-.:cheers:
 
R005t3r said:
it has the slickest magazine and follower spring I have ever seen.
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I agree! Much nicer than the simple folded springs in all other rifles of that era. The floorplate is also easy to open and close (good for me as I always have terrible luck with Mauser-style floorplates). I love my Mosin and plan on getting several more :D
 
IMHO Mosin is a Way go same as any WWII era rifle if you looking for cheap yet powerful and reliable rig. But it's surplus ammo is also chaper than others (such as almost non-existent nowadays surplus .303)!

I could hit a target of a coyte size reliably up to 500m with my badly bubbarized '37 Tula 91/30 wearing Russian PPO 5-20x50 scope (POS, stay away from it); with pretty much any ammo, Cz S&B 180Gr SP preferrable thu. I just replaced scope with Bushnell Elite 3200 Mildot and haven't given this marvelous rifle another trip to the range yet. Looking forward to it, droolin... ;)

You can end up with badly shot out bore but I'm having troubles imagining ANY wear on Mosin's mechanics.

My list of my crimes against humanity while bubbarizing my MN:
-- Huber Concepts match grade trigger
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-- ATI Monter-Carlo MN stock, lots of fitting work as it is desingned to fit a "generic" MN rifle, similar to this one but black
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-- Tula one-piece "SKS" side scope mount
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-- Round receiver side mount rails
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Compact design bent bolt handle (eBay)
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And here we go:
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You may and may not want to bubbarize it but you will definetely enjoy your MN if milsurplus is your cup of tea.
 
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I have a 91/30 and it shoots like a dream. At 50 yards I've shot 1" groups quite a few times and usually I'll do no worse than 2.5" groups. I've yet to try it at 100 yards but I imagine it would do pretty good. Sometimes you get luck and get an accurate one. I also lucked out with the action/bolt as it cycles amazing and loads stripper clips perfect every time. I love the gun and highly recommend buying one!
 
The Safety. place the butt against the inside of your elbow , reach up to cocking piece and turn to the left. Easy with practice and really quiet if you are careful. I used to have a round chamcerd and leat the handle up until i tried pulling the trigger like that once and the sear disengaged, good thing it was empty or we would have had a hell of a time explaining the bullet hole in the trucks roof. Not to mention the new hearing aids.:)
 
My collection is up to three, a 91/30 an M38 and an M44. Haven't shot them yet just waiting for my ammo to be delivered. They are not finished like a Mauser but seem to be a rugged and simple design. Triggers seem a little on the heavy side. If you want one to hunt with I would say try and get an M38. The 7.62 x 54R is as good as a 303 Brit and would drop anything with the right bullet. IMHO!!
 
i've toyed with getting one of the russians that are being sold, but cannot decide betweent the 91/30 and the 38, laminated or solid wood.
 
TheWharGoul said:
Welcome to the never ending WWII collection. It always starts with just one.... then you end up like Klunk of Claven2! :p

Or at least hope to archive something similar.. before they buy everything!
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Just to give you guys an update, Claven2 just bought the last of the milsurps in Canada.

We're out.
 
I have three now. All were cheap (less than $200). Started with a 91/30, then got the m44 followed by a Finn captured SA marked 91/30. The M44 is a Polish 1951 that is in immaculate shape all matching numbers with great fit and woodwork. I noticed that the m44 shot way to the left and was told to try with the bayo out. It didn't seem to make a difference. The Russian 91/30 is still in good shape with original shellacked stock and the finn is a pine tarred looking thing which was probably the most accurate rifle out of the box so to speak. Of all my rifles, my friends love to shoot the mosins. Get some yellow tip 180gr and go town.
While shooting at the range in winter, the concussion from the mosin would knock the snow off the range roof! Not to mention the 2 foot flame out the end and the earsplitting report. It even woke the ol' boys up
 
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