mossberg night train

rookie wildcat said:
Just wanted to add a few additional comments.

I bought the night train as a coyote gun. Specifically for that . NOT a precision rifle. Handloaded with 110gn VMaxs, it shoots 3/8" @ 100yds. More than accurate enough for me. Is it a precision rifle? I do not think so. But your definition of a long-range shooter may be different than mine. I know it will put the bullet where I want it at 200yds. Head shots on coyotes out to 200yds on a calm day is not asking anything outside of this rifle. However, my definition of long range shooting is a 4" group @ 1000yds. That's why I don't shoot precision rifles, I don't have a rifle that will group sub 1/4".

You will Never shoot off of the supplied bi-pod (changed mine out before I shot it the second time). I have no issues with the scope at all.

OP, in my honest opinion, if you are looking for my type of long-range shooter, this will probably do the job, but isn't the best tool out there for it.
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Wow, you must have one of the super mossberg variants:onCrack:. That's quite a bold claim to say it shoots 3/8" @ 100 yards. Are you consistently getting these kind of groups?
I agree with srt4u2nv, you should get into F-class using this rifle.... You'd be quite successful. :bangHead:

I've got a browning x-bolt varmint that has shot a 3 shot group under 1/4" @100 yards once........ keyword is ONCE. That does not make it a sub 1/4MOA rifle... it means I got lucky. I most likely won't be able to pull it off with that rifle again. I'd like to see your targets....
 
Jeromeo said:
Wow, you must have one of the super mossberg variants:onCrack:. That's quite a bold claim to say it shoots 3/8" @ 100 yards. Are you consistently getting these kind of groups?
I agree with srt4u2nv, you should get into F-class using this rifle.... You'd be quite successful. :bangHead:

I've got a browning x-bolt varmint that has shot a 3 shot group under 1/4" @100 yards once........ keyword is ONCE. That does not make it a sub 1/4MOA rifle... it means I got lucky. I most likely won't be able to pull it off with that rifle again. I'd like to see your targets....
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This mans Mossberg hangs with rifles like the ones tested in this thread :bangHead:http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=561101
 
srt4u2nv said:
3/8ths 5shot group at 100yds I would LOVE to see that target! even a 3rnd clover leaf would be bigger then 3/8".....

nope you have a rifle that shoots 1/8" over a 1/4" heck that's better then nearly every factory target rifle made. You should go enter some f-class matches with that rifle you would clean up.

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how does a 3-shot 3/8" group equal 1/8"? You have lost me there.

Jeromeo,
No, this is not a consistent group size, but is indicative as to what the rifle will shoot. It will consistently shoot 3rd-sub 5/8" groups all day. Whether you want to believe it or not. He!!, my wife's savage 111 in .243 will do that and she just started shooting last year.

All,
this will be my last post in precision rifles, because I do not believe that I am a precision rifle shooter; and, apparently, I have wandered into Snobville.
Enjoy.
 
rookie wildcat said:
how does a 3-shot 3/8" group equal 1/8"? You have lost me there.

Jeromeo,
No, this is not a consistent group size, but is indicative as to what the rifle will shoot. It will consistently shoot 3rd-sub 5/8" groups all day. Whether you want to believe it or not. He!!, my wife's savage 111 in .243 will do that and she just started shooting last year.

All,
this will be my last post in precision rifles, because I do not believe that I am a precision rifle shooter; and, apparently, I have wandered into Snobville.
Enjoy.
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3/8" is 1/8" over a 1/4" thats what I meant...follow?.... you said you don't have a rifle that can shoot 1/4 but it shoots 3/8"s which is only 1/8" bigger not a whole lot.

Groups for percision rifles are also 5rnds not 3 :sniper:

Mossberg night train is not a good place to enter the world of percision or target shooting. Your better off with a basic Savage or Rem at least there are upgrades available that will improve accuracy. But I guess if you get the mossberg it already out shoots Sako TRG22's and every other factory available target rifle so no need for upgrades.
 
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An inexpensive starter rifle I would recommend is the Savage Combo rifle. They have detachable mag, scope, and come in a variety of calibers. All for under $500.

I bought mine in .243, and it would group .8 - 1.2" on average with 5 shots. Not bad for a starter rifle. I could usually hit the 3" gong at 300m... you can hardly see the gong through it's scope but very fun when you got it.

Now, I've been slowly upgrading it. I changed out the trigger first, then put a new scope on it, and now have just put it in a Boyd's stock. The gun looks a lot different! I also have a Shilen Select Match barrel that just arrived that I'm installing as soon as I can get the original barrel off. I broke a 4" MasterCraft vice yesterday trying to get it off.

It's a cheap way to get started and fun to slowly upgrade as I go.

Best of luck,

Barry
 
The Savage combo is an inexpensive hunting rifle with scope that is meant for "set and forget" . The gun is not well-suited for target shooting as it has a hunting contured barrel, and as you have demonstrated, its accuracy is on the large side of typical for inexpensive factory rifles.

I do not wish to denegrate your own consumer choices, but when shopping for a scope and rifle at the $500 retail price point, you get what you pay for; you are getting the best of a bad lot.

Everybody's financial circumstances are different, but you are far better off investing in a heavy-barrel rifle and in a caliber that will not eat barrels, or kick the crap out of you. and you won't find that for $500 except used.

If you only have $500 to spend, well, personally, I would find a good old non-bubba Lee Enfield or K98 and at least you know that if it has been around for 70 years, it will likely be around for another 70, and they are a piece of history.
 
Obtunded said:
The Savage combo is an inexpensive hunting rifle with scope that is meant for "set and forget" . The gun is not well-suited for target shooting as it has a hunting contured barrel, and as you have demonstrated, its accuracy is on the large side of typical for inexpensive factory rifles.

I do not wish to denegrate your own consumer choices, but when shopping for a scope and rifle at the $500 retail price point, you get what you pay for; you are getting the best of a bad lot.

Everybody's financial circumstances are different, but you are far better off investing in a heavy-barrel rifle and in a caliber that will not eat barrels, or kick the crap out of you. and you won't find that for $500 except used.

If you only have $500 to spend, well, personally, I would find a good old non-bubba Lee Enfield or K98 and at least you know that if it has been around for 70 years, it will likely be around for another 70, and they are a piece of history.
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My Lee Enfield is my funnest gun to shoot... :)

The problem with Target Shooting is you need to invest at least $2000 to get off to a good start.

However, I learn new things every time I go to the range, and if you don't have $2k then a $500 rifle is better then no rifle.
 
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