They're made for Mossberg by a Turkish company I think? I can't remember for sure. Either way, they're a mid range priced gun with mid range work done to them. They're not a bad gun for the money I'm told. They're certainly not bottom of the barrel, that's for sure. If you're looking for an over under and don't want to break the bank with a Beretta and you don't want something plain jane and cheap.