Most accurate 9mm load with titegroup
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SIG P226, as to using Campro there is ACCURACY and there is accuracy. I don't use caps for my definition
just looking for a reasonably accurate loadHere is what I am using now (goes bang every time but is not too accurate)
Titegroup 4 gr
OAL 1.151 + or- .003
Crimp .378
Primer: dominion small
Cases - miscellaneous
ideas?
What kind of groups are you getting with your current load vs factory ammo?
Have you run your reloads through a chrono to make sure you are getting consistent speeds? (Probably not as big a factor in short distances)
Have you run your reloads through a chrono to make sure you are getting consistent speeds? (Probably not as big a factor in short distances)
I am using 124 gr frontier 4 gr of tight group and where getting dime size groups at 10 meters using a rest. I do not crimp and was using mixed brass. This was out of a sig legion. I can check the overall length but I was going from what ever was in my old lymen Manuel.SIG P226, as to using Campro there is ACCURACY and there is accuracy. I don't use caps for my definition
Here is what I am using now (goes bang every time but is not too accurate)
Titegroup 4 gr
OAL 1.151 + or- .003
Crimp .378
Primer: dominion small
Cases - miscellaneous
ideas?
I just use the appropriate lee auto disk cavity; works out to be about 4.2gr Titegroup, at 1o yards 3 shots touching are not a rare occurrence.
My shooting out to 25 yards is not a good determination of the accuracy of my load, lol. Need more practice!
My shooting out to 25 yards is not a good determination of the accuracy of my load, lol. Need more practice!
You have to remember: with bullets as with anything else: you get what you pay for. $0.12/bullet definitely spreads a lot more than $0.35/bullet. CamPro are fine for shooting a handgun at 10m or plinking with no real worries about accuracy.
And I don't buy them anymore because I have a 19" barrel I'm trying to get the most of at 100m.
And I don't buy them anymore because I have a 19" barrel I'm trying to get the most of at 100m.
Minimum load for cycling with my 9mms (about 20 of them) is in the 3.0 to 3.3 range.
Load about 20 of each powder charge, and test them for accuracy and cycling.
TacticalCanuck
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- SW Ontario
I have loaded lots of campro 40 caliber cartridges and get a clover leaf at 10 yards right where I want it. For 9 I get good groups but not that type of success, where 1 or 2 shots in a 5 shot are outside, but within 1/2 to 1/4 inch of the others.
for 9 I use the same bullets, 3.8 grains of titegroup and S&B primers. OAL is set to my gun, and chamber checked.
I have heard of guys with really expensive guns being able to go below 3 grains of TG, though I have never tried it myself. I got what worked for me through trial and error, which, if you remain within spec, should be your process too.
This is part of the fun for me, figuring out what works, and then refining it. It's part of what makes sport shooting such an interesting hobby
for 9 I use the same bullets, 3.8 grains of titegroup and S&B primers. OAL is set to my gun, and chamber checked.
I have heard of guys with really expensive guns being able to go below 3 grains of TG, though I have never tried it myself. I got what worked for me through trial and error, which, if you remain within spec, should be your process too.
This is part of the fun for me, figuring out what works, and then refining it. It's part of what makes sport shooting such an interesting hobby
I have loaded lots of campro 40 caliber cartridges and get a clover leaf at 10 yards right where I want it. For 9 I get good groups but not that type of success, where 1 or 2 shots in a 5 shot are outside, but within 1/2 to 1/4 inch of the others.
for 9 I use the same bullets, 3.8 grains of titegroup and S&B primers. OAL is set to my gun, and chamber checked.
I have heard of guys with really expensive guns being able to go below 3 grains of TG, though I have never tried it myself. I got what worked for me through trial and error, which, if you remain within spec, should be your process too.
This is part of the fun for me, figuring out what works, and then refining it. It's part of what makes sport shooting such an interesting hobby
What's your .40 load?
9mm
124gr Campro RN
3.7gr Titegroup
OAL 27mm
random headstamp brass
CCI sp primers
10 shot avg. 1025 fps
accuracy is not something I have checked on the bullet. I mostly practice 2 target double tap, from IPSC style draw at 15 yards. Mostly I'm in the A and C zone, but some D's and the occasional 'I wonder where that bullet went'. It's about me, not the bullet at this stage.
124gr Campro RN
3.7gr Titegroup
OAL 27mm
random headstamp brass
CCI sp primers
10 shot avg. 1025 fps
accuracy is not something I have checked on the bullet. I mostly practice 2 target double tap, from IPSC style draw at 15 yards. Mostly I'm in the A and C zone, but some D's and the occasional 'I wonder where that bullet went'. It's about me, not the bullet at this stage.
Use Campro 158gr in my .357 Magnum chambered Henry Lever Action and with the buck horn sights, one ragged hole at 25 yards. Off hand, hundred yard gong goes 'pling' with every shot, so nothing wrong with Campro bullets. Use the 124 and 147 gr's Cam Pro in my various 9's and they work as good as more expensive jacketed bullets. Use 3.8 grs of Titegroup with the 124 gr and 3.4 grs with the 147gr. Campro's.
It is really more about who is holding the pistol in most cases than what load you are shooting for a load. I do find my reloads much more accurate than any factory ammo which in most cases is loaded pretty hot, compared to what I shoot.
You will tighten up your groups more by developing better arm strength and lots of dry firing practice, than any amount of pissing around with load development in a 9mm.
In my case I shoot mostly home cast lead bullets in my CZ's. I use a very old Ideal 121 grain mold (bullets sized to .3575) seated to 1.110" OAL with 4.5 gr's of Unique and whatever small pistol primer I happen to have on hand. I load single stage, group head stamps, clean primer pockets and toss any less than perfect shell cases. I have never bought a new 9mm case, always find enough on the range to use. Free is good. Below is my typical 50 foot slow fire target. Accurate enough for me.
Target on the right is a 20 shot slow fire 50 foot group.
It is really more about who is holding the pistol in most cases than what load you are shooting for a load. I do find my reloads much more accurate than any factory ammo which in most cases is loaded pretty hot, compared to what I shoot.
You will tighten up your groups more by developing better arm strength and lots of dry firing practice, than any amount of pissing around with load development in a 9mm.
In my case I shoot mostly home cast lead bullets in my CZ's. I use a very old Ideal 121 grain mold (bullets sized to .3575) seated to 1.110" OAL with 4.5 gr's of Unique and whatever small pistol primer I happen to have on hand. I load single stage, group head stamps, clean primer pockets and toss any less than perfect shell cases. I have never bought a new 9mm case, always find enough on the range to use. Free is good. Below is my typical 50 foot slow fire target. Accurate enough for me.
Target on the right is a 20 shot slow fire 50 foot group.
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TacticalCanuck
Regular
- Location
- SW Ontario
4.6 grains of titegroup in mostly blazer brass, with campro 180 grain & S&B primers. I just got a box of Berrys bullets to try out, so I'm looking forward to being able to compare! For the most part, I've only used cam pro for pistol, as well as a few cast 115 grain bullets that did a little better for me in 9. With my 9mm pistol I tend to pull it down a bit from time to time, whereas with the 40, I do better. I do not yet have a good load for .357 campro.
