Most Accurate Inexpensive .22's?

Inexpensive is relative. I recently got an LNIB 1416KDL Annie for $1050 shipped insured and an Annie 64 match single shot in Like New condition for $800 shipped insured. In my opinion, these are inexpensive Annies.

I have seen CZ 453's listed on the EE for higher than these.

Haven't shot them yet but big difference between CZ and Annie are the better factory triggers and more consistent barrel high quality on the Annies.

The Match 64 trigger is to die for, IMO. Remember the glass rods we used to heat up on the Bunsen burner (in high school)and stretched into fine threads. Seems the Match 64 trigger felt like this glass thread breaking.

If they shoot better than my 452s (on cheap bulk ammo), there could be 4 more 452s on the EE... LOL!

But if inexpensive means low priced, it's hard to beat the $200-250 Savage MkIIs on the EE.
 
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easyrider604 said:
Inexpensive is relative. I recently got an LNIB 1416KDL Annie for $1050 shipped insured and an Annie 64 match single shot in Like New condition for $800 shipped insured. In my opinion, these are inexpensive Annies.

I have seen CZ 453's listed on the EE for higher than these.

Haven't shot them yet but big difference between CZ and Annie are the better factory triggers and more consistent barrel high quality on the Annies.

The Match 64 trigger is to die for, IMO. Remember the glass rods we used to heat up on the Bunsen burner (in high school)and stretched into fine threads. Seems the Match 64 trigger felt like this glass thread breaking.

If they shoot better than my 452s (on cheap bulk ammo), there could be 4 more 452s on the EE... LOL!

But if inexpensive means low priced, it's hard to beat the $200-250 Savage MkIIs on the EE.
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I agree with all of that, just wondering how closely the OP is watching the thread...and whether or not a $600-$700 CZ 453 would qualify as "inexpensive" to him/her. lol Agreed on the Mark IIs, older Marlins, etc.

My 64 MPR Tactical Trainer has the Anschutz 5098 trigger...and if a much better trigger exists anywhere, I haven't used it. lol Next closest might be the factory trigger on the Cooper I once had, but I would say the Anschutz is still better.
 
.22LRGUY said:
My 64 MPR Tactical Trainer has the Anschutz 5098 trigger...and if a much better trigger exists anywhere, I haven't used it. lol Next closest might be the factory trigger on the Cooper I once had, but I would say the Anschutz is still better.
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The triggers on the 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx Anschutz 54 Match rifles have even better triggers.:)
 
I think I paid right around $600 on EE for the 453, I sort of considered that "inexpensive", as I've always wanted an anschutz 64 type, like the 1903 msr...

I have 3 of the savage MKIIs, one with a fancy barrel and custom boyds stock, one bone factory-stock and one with wood stock and peep sights. I do like the savages, but they don't outshoot the CZ no matter what I feed them (for me). I think they are fantastic for the price (although I do think the factory stocks are flimsy).

Based on the 453 I bought one of the 527 varmint MTR rifles in .223, and can't get that thing to group better than 2 moa, so I won't give CZ a blanket endorsement, BUT I do love my 453. I believe I have the single set trigger down to 8 ounces or something nice like that, nothing moves when you squeeze off a round. I suppose people weren't paying the extra for the trigger group and that's why they discontinued it, but they're at least worth a try if you ever get the opportunity.



*I do wish the savages had easy options for larger bolt handles. They are a bit tough to work with gloves on.
 
easyrider604 said:
You have a 1411 54 action Annie on the EE right now. How would you rate its trigger?
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At the moment it has a two stage 5075 trigger on it, which is not the original trigger. First used on the 16xx series rifles, the 5075 is very similar to the 5018 triggers found on the Anschutz 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx triggers. It goes down to 3-4 ounces as do the 5018 triggers.

The usual trigger found on the 1411's of the early 1960's was the 3lb 1411-U8 trigger, which goes down to 15-16 ounces. It was used to qualify the 1411 rifles of that era for NRA sanctioned North American matches. The 1407's of the 1960s-1970s and the 1411's after the mid-60's used the 1407-U9 two stage "hair trigger" (Anschutz's term), which goes down to 5-6 ounces. The 14xx triggers are interchangeable, while the 5075 (and 5071 for that matter) require a little modification to the bottom of the receiver.
 
grauhanen said:
At the moment it has a two stage 5075 trigger on it, which is not the original trigger. First used on the 16xx series rifles, the 5075 is very similar to the 5018 triggers found on the Anschutz 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx triggers. It goes down to 3-4 ounces as do the 5018 triggers.

The usual trigger found on the 1411's of the early 1960's was the 3lb 1411-U8 trigger, which goes down to 15-16 ounces. It was used to qualify the 1411 rifles of that era for NRA sanctioned North American matches. The 1407's of the 1960s-1970s and the 1411's after the mid-60's used the 1407-U9 two stage "hair trigger" (Anschutz's term), which goes down to 5-6 ounces. The 14xx triggers are interchangeable, while the 5075 (and 5071 for that matter) require a little modification to the bottom of the receiver.
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Holy Smokes, 4 ozs!!! IIRC, That's even lighter than the set trigger on my old 1416 double set from the 80s.

OK, at the risk of derailing this thread, but then the upside would be a great education on a still inexpensive Annie, can your 1411 shoot inexpensive bulk, ie Blazer SV, into 1 MOA at 100 yds?
 
I second the Marlin XT 22 - around $300 ish
I bought one a while ago just to have a cheap 22 but then I started shooting some groups just to see
And it is very acurate with CCI. I got some 7 shot groups just over .5"" at 50. Best was .570" and I know the rifle is better than me!
Trigger is nice bluing is good the stock is kinda cheap but you can't beat the price.
 
grauhanen said:
The triggers on the 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx Anschutz 54 Match rifles have even better triggers.:)
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HORSE SH*T! lol

Just kidding, I'll have to take your word for it though..as I've never tried those. The trigger on mine is remarkable, I can't actually imagine how it could be better...but it is Anschutz, so I have to believe it is.

Somerset Bar said:
I think I paid right around $600 on EE for the 453, I sort of considered that "inexpensive", as I've always wanted an anschutz 64 type, like the 1903 msr...

I have 3 of the savage MKIIs, one with a fancy barrel and custom boyds stock, one bone factory-stock and one with wood stock and peep sights. I do like the savages, but they don't outshoot the CZ no matter what I feed them (for me). I think they are fantastic for the price (although I do think the factory stocks are flimsy).

Based on the 453 I bought one of the 527 varmint MTR rifles in .223, and can't get that thing to group better than 2 moa, so I won't give CZ a blanket endorsement, BUT I do love my 453. I believe I have the single set trigger down to 8 ounces or something nice like that, nothing moves when you squeeze off a round. I suppose people weren't paying the extra for the trigger group and that's why they discontinued it, but they're at least worth a try if you ever get the opportunity.



*I do wish the savages had easy options for larger bolt handles. They are a bit tough to work with gloves on.
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^That's highly unusual... Are you shooting hand loads, or factory ammo? If factory, how many types have you tried? I (too) bought a 527 Varmint based on my affection for the 452s...and the rifle shoots 3/4 MOA using factory ammo. (17 Hornet) I hand load...but I basically put load development on semi-temporary hold when I saw what this gun can do with the pre-rolled.
 
.22LRGUY said:
^That's highly unusual... Are you shooting hand loads, or factory ammo? If factory, how many types have you tried? I (too) bought a 527 Varmint based on my affection for the 452s...and the rifle shoots 3/4 MOA using factory ammo. (17 Hornet) I hand load...but I basically put load development on semi-temporary hold when I saw what this gun can do with the pre-rolled.
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I've shot some factory federal match ammo, and a ton of handloads. So far I've tried 55gr, 60gr, 62 gr, 75gr and I think I even found a box of 85gr. Now all of it is using cfe223 powder, from a bench, but not in s sled, just using a rest. I had the "best" results with 62 and 75 gr, so I'm going to get more of the 75 grain bullets and try different loads/powders. However, on bench days I usually bring out the Bergara in 6.5 creedmore, and that thing is 3/4 inch groups all day long, so it's not the rest. The CZ has that weird paddle grip and who knows maybe that is affecting my trigger pull, I just haven't narrowed it down yet (hopefully). Or who knows I might just have a dud. I may take a look at the crown and see if the machining is off, but I would be surprised.
 
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Savage Mark ii with a good scope will work well.
If you looking for a higher level of accuracy, you will need to upgrade the stock - look for one with an adjustable cheek rest and a pistol grip.
Then the rest is on you...
 
Interesting. With the 2 x 223s I've developed loads for, it was more a bullet-weight thing than a powder thing to get them dialed-in, but I have had difficulty finding a great load for .204 Ruger. More than 4 powders tried, and maybe 5-6 bullet types/styles/weights before bullet holes were touching on paper @ 100 yards.

For me, the pet load I always start with is a 55gr. Hornady V-Max, and 25-26g. Varget. All but one of the 223s I've shot were MOA or better using this load. I've never shot a 527 Varmint in .223 though, and it was a Tikka CTR that insisted on heavier bullets. (that gun shot heavier, factory ammo extremely well) I do always spend an hour or so Googling...to see if anyone has shared their load data online for the very gun I'm working a load up for. You may not find something you'll like, but you'll usually see (at least) what the consensus is re: bullet weights it shoots well.
 
.22LRGUY said:
HORSE SH*T! lol
Just kidding, I'll have to take your word for it though..as I've never tried those. The trigger on mine is remarkable, I can't actually imagine how it could be better...but it is Anschutz, so I have to believe it is.
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The 5098 trigger is a good trigger. But keep in mind it's found only on the Anschutz 64 action rifles. None of the 54's have them. The top-of-the-line 54.30 barreled action, the most expensive in the Anschutz target rifle line, has the 5018 trigger as do the 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx rifles.
 
grauhanen said:
The 5098 trigger is a good trigger. But keep in mind it's found only on the Anschutz 64 action rifles. None of the 54's have them. The top-of-the-line 54.30 barreled action, the most expensive in the Anschutz target rifle line, has the 5018 trigger as do the 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx rifles.
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..so you HAVEN'T used one, and it could be better than the ones in 54s..? :) lol Kidding man~not sure I even WANT to try a 54 if I can't get my mitts on one permanently. lol I do know my 64 has turned a couple of people not even interested in guns...into people taking their courses soon. It's that easy to shoot well.
 
Epoxy7 said:
Those NS522 rifles were a great bargain. I know a number of people who bought a bunch when they were on sale.
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I got a real lemon. Stock fit was terrible, and in fact had a split in it on the inside, and the action was really wonky. I guess if these were sitting in a storage container someplace since the 90's until CANAM decided to drudge them up it's not surprising some of them baked out (and who was going to complain for $200). My action would jam if you didn't push the bolt with your thumb from the rear, even after polishing the action. I ended up giving it to someone as a barn rat gun, and I assume it's slowly rotting apart. I would describe these as "1MOR" rifles (1 minute of rat....at 20 feet). I did miss out on the cheap mauser clones though, would have liked to see how one of those shot.
 
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