Most Accurate NR Semi-Auto Rifle?
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A little more info might be helpful.
What are you planning to shoot with it?
Do you have a caliber in mind you'd like to have it chambered in?
What distances do you plan to be shooting?
Are you a handloader?
What is your budget?
Do you want the most accurate factory rifle or what has the most potential if you spend even more money on it?
Phat Eagle
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The Swiss Arms I've seen all shoot and run VERY well. Then again, they're on par with a MH for cost...
Some of the heavy barrel XCRs are OK accuracy wise, but they seem to be quite finicky. I know the RA fanboys are always defending them, but why do they all have a full set of Allan keys in their shooting bag??
Tavors are NOT precision rifles, but they weren't built to be.
Some of the heavy barrel XCRs are OK accuracy wise, but they seem to be quite finicky. I know the RA fanboys are always defending them, but why do they all have a full set of Allan keys in their shooting bag??
Tavors are NOT precision rifles, but they weren't built to be.
168gr over varget. Going to try a few diferent powders. Did not seem to like the 155 amax, but will try again at a later date.
When is the cam pin fix for the "flier" issue going to be out? Would be nice to see some real 5 round groups at 100 yards without that flier. Also will this fix be able to be applied to Modern hunter rifles that are already in customer's hands?
I've owned a few XCR's. I've had 3(?, iirc) that were run of the mill, 2-3.5 moa guns. However I did have an old heavy barrel that would shoot =/> 1.5 moa all day long with a Hornady 55gr Vmax. I thought that was pretty great. They aren't precision rifles, but I'll likely always have one in the safe, they are nice firearms.
Anyways, lots of good information here OP. For common NR 223 black rifles, likely your best bet is a Herron Arms converted ACR. Swiss or ATRS MV would also be excellent choices. I wasn't terribly happy with my SL-8, but lots of other folks have had some good groups with them.
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I've owned both the XCR L, and the M and also bought a Modern Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor. My shooting buddy has an SL8, but have never fired the FNAR. None of these were close to precision and I hand loaded for all of them. My XCR L in .223 surprisingly was the most accurate of those. With handloads and slow rate of fire, it could hold close to 1 moa regularly. Not with factory Ammo though. I also tried everything I could to try and make my Modern Hunter shoot even average groups, but never could get anything close to acceptable accuracy out of it, especially for the money it cost, so sold it to a hunting buddy who don't care about the poor accuracy and didn't want it for the same reasons I initially bought it for. Maybe my expectations for it were too high but compared to my Les Baer Supervarminter AR, it wasn't even close.
I also know a couple guys who have rebarrelled the ACRs to non-restricted, and I have fired a few groups thru them and was actually quite impressed. If I had to spend all that money again, I'd go with a rebarrelled ACR or the XCR-L.
It's funny too how many of these guns seem hit or miss though. I know several guys who hated their XCRs and my XCR-M in 308 was no better then the Modern Hunter, but there are guys very happy with theirs so sometimes it's a gamble no matter what you choose?
I also know a couple guys who have rebarrelled the ACRs to non-restricted, and I have fired a few groups thru them and was actually quite impressed. If I had to spend all that money again, I'd go with a rebarrelled ACR or the XCR-L.
It's funny too how many of these guns seem hit or miss though. I know several guys who hated their XCRs and my XCR-M in 308 was no better then the Modern Hunter, but there are guys very happy with theirs so sometimes it's a gamble no matter what you choose?
I have to make a case for ATRS's new Modern Varminter in .223 Wylde. I had it out for the second time today. I know, it's not really meant as a precision rifle. But the first time I had it out, I shot a 5 shot group at 3/4moa at 102 yards. Today, I was plinking a 6" gong at 100m. Ten out of ten everytime, off hand or off a bag.
I may take some flack for suggesting this....meh.
I may take some flack for suggesting this....meh.
A number of AR based varmint rifles have .5 moa guarantees. The Stag 6 and Les Bauer Super varminter come to mind.
Glad to hear yours is working out for you. Any info on the inner workings? Is the BCG DPMS with an ASA notch? Buffer tube? Commercial or milspec? etc. Not many of them out there.
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Got sub . MOA on Trinimon challenge, i dont have to say more... JP.[/URL][/IMG]
That's impressive! I'm struggling a little to crack 1 Moa consistently with my fnar. I was beginning to think it didn't like varget, but maybe it's the 168's...
Got sub . MOA on Trinimon challenge, i dont have to say more... JP.[/URL][/IMG]
Actually this one was my sub .75 MOA success with my first FNAR, with my second FNAR i got sub MOA, i will attempt eventually to equal my first performance... JP.
With the barrel retention design they seem to be hit or miss and more often the latter.
With a little luck or perhaps a little more effort/patience to make another/more attempts .5MOA looks possible for the challenge.
When cost is factored in there's no denying the value of a FNAR for a NR .308 semi.-auto.
As for a .223 (and .308 too) it's just a shame AR's aren't NR.
However until that happens the ACR re-barreled by Herron Arm's, Swiss Sniper, HK SL8 or a Volquartsen Evolution should prove to offer MOA accuracy or better with hand-loads and perhaps the ATRS MV, yet they're to new to say although 6MT is shooting his well.
Cheers D
Agreed, i did not miss the sub .5 MOA by much...
Like they say, so close, yet so far, no doubt this platform is a performer, the burden of the proof is on the operator's shoulder...
Super concentration must be optimal...
Getting older i find i need 2 or 3 extras coffees to bring my focus to adequate level... JP.
