Most common rifles and scopes for CRPS production class.
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Production or open class? Ie. budget? You will be disappointed with the “clunkiness” of the savage MkII/Diamondback combo if you use $1500+ Center fires, especially purpose built precision rifles. It works well, but like a Mastercraft tool instead of Dewalt. Most open class gun/optic setups are not used by podium shooters, ie $$ doesn’t equal winning but well engineered tools are more of a pleasure to use.
The biggest limitation for most factory rifles is the barrel, once you have tested ammo choices and found something that works for your rifle. That being said, good shooters shoot so-so rifles better than a rich ones who are poor shooters.
The biggest limitation for most factory rifles is the barrel, once you have tested ammo choices and found something that works for your rifle. That being said, good shooters shoot so-so rifles better than a rich ones who are poor shooters.
All I’ve learned says that would be a fine start. I think I will start with an Ruger Precision Rimfire, probably adding an IBI barrel right away. Gets me a functional chassis and aftermarket barrel quite a bit less than a Bergara. That would be my next step up $$ wise. After that, an Anchutz 1710, next step up a Voodoo build. I personally need a chassis, others may not feel that way.
Spending for a basic open rifle like a Ruger Rimfire and dropping $2-$4K on optics would probably help scores more though. I’m using Rimfire as a surrogate for Center fire shooting that I can’t afford so the trigger time is key.
Not that much less.
RPR: $719.99 at Cabelas.
IBI barrel: $489 to $639
Total: $1209 to $1359
Bergara B14R: $1499.99 at Maple Ridge Armoury
$140 to $300 difference, and in the end its still a RPR.
You can also get a B14R barrelled action for $999 and drop it into a stock/chassis of your own choice.
The chassis of choice would run me close to $1K. No point in buying a half ass solution. My expectation is that the Bergara value is in the Rem 700 footprint and mag body dimensions. The barrel needs replacing like the RPR. I don’t have much faith in factory barrels. Best value for accuracy might be buying 5 Savage MKIIs and keeping the best shooting one, but I’m too lazy to do that to end up with a Savage.
The Savage and the RPR will sell easily in stock form or with IBI barrel when I want to step up to an Anshutz.
Is there a MOST COMMON or MOST PREFERRED reticle choice? Do most get by with a simple duplex or is there a preference to a few hash marks on the bottom/elevation and windage????? I'd think because of the known distances you can DIAL in for that and windage is also a DIAL in rather than HOLD OFF?????
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The most common term is Xmas Tree reticles. There is a cascading and widening row of marks into the lower part of the reticle.
When engaging multiple targets at varied distances on the clock, you don't always have time to dial. These reticle let you make quick adjustments and put shots downrange.
I prefer MIL for the CRPS game and the Athlon reticles work very well for me and what I want in a set up. You should consider having markings above the center .. it is a huge time saver when you can run an entire stage using 16mils of travel in your scope.
Jerry
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Thank you for that, so this really is the same as F-Class where guys "HOLD OFF" rather than DIAL in for windage changes. They do dial in for distance as they're only shooting from KNOWN distances. So, when engaging targets in RimFire, you may be taking shots from the same location, just different distances??
The target distances are all known, written in the course of fire. You are also free to use a laser rangefinder if you wish.
99% of shooters hold the wind, since you normally have multiple targets at different distances in each stage and dialing for elevation and windage simple takes too much time.
Dialing or holding for elevation also depends on the stage. For example, if you have two targets at different distances and you switch between the two, most shooters will dial the first one and then hold over the additional elevation when shooting the second one.
99% of shooters hold the wind, since you normally have multiple targets at different distances in each stage and dialing for elevation and windage simple takes too much time.
Dialing or holding for elevation also depends on the stage. For example, if you have two targets at different distances and you switch between the two, most shooters will dial the first one and then hold over the additional elevation when shooting the second one.
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For PRS games like CRPS on a rifle range, think of it like Golf. You have a stage which starts in one location but you may need to go to various positions on that prop... you rarely have to 'move' to another location. At each shooting position, you will have to engage a/some targets at one/multi distances. Try and get the match booklet and you will understand what I mean.
There are situations where dialing is preferred ... other times, you would loose too much time so hold overs for all/some of the targets is preferred. the gear I run, allows me all the flexibility to choose what I want/need and when.
Given how the game is set up, there is no one answer.... ideally, you want ALL the answers as the 'question' keeps changing.
Jerry
Thank you, your replies are very informative but if you use that 4 letter word "GOLF" again I'll ask the moderators to suspend you for a week.....or three.
As quoted elsewhere....."a golf course is a waste of a good rifle range". Never played it...........never want to..........(Thanks Gerry, always good help.) BB
As quoted elsewhere....."a golf course is a waste of a good rifle range". Never played it...........never want to..........(Thanks Gerry, always good help.) BB
A great resource for learning about what goes into the technique and technicalities of precision rimfire shooting is youtube channel 8541 Tactical:
https://www.youtube.com/user/LoneWolfUSMC/videos
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