Most overrated rifle

cam1936 said:
He makes several good points. The Tikka is cheaply made. I don't mind them, as you say they have a smooth bolt, they are pretty light and I have found them to shoot well.

They do however have pretty crappy magazines that are ridiculously expensive. A PMAG is much higher quality and they cost about 1/4 the price. One action length is just being lazy, and the recoil lug system is another cheap out. Plastic stocks aren't great, but neither are the other manufacturers. Mags are often short (cartridge dependent) which often makes it impossible to get the bullet close to the lands.

It's not a bad gun, but it's a budget rifle being sold at a mid grade price.

FWIW I had a T3 Stainless in 6.5x55 Swede and have had half a dozen 700s. 4 out of those 6 700s shot better than my Tikka. Although all shot well enough for a factory hunting rifle.
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Since the reading comprehension on this thread seems to be below grade 4 level I will spell it out that the Tikka was used as an example among many, yes it is a budget gun built cheaply, and it being a better built firearm off the gate than a factory Rem 700 is precisely my point on why it's overrated. It's priced well above where it deserves to be, and as evidenced in the comments here has a cult like following that is baffling. It's like the Harley Davidson fans of the gun world. Loud, obnoxious, trumpeting an average to slightly below average at best firearm like it's a gift from the heavens.

FLHTCUI said:
Your talking about operator error.
Guys having their booger picker on the trigger when cycling the action or messing with the trigger springs when they are not even qualified to pick up a wrench let alone modify a trigger assembly.
But, your opinion has been noted as such.
FLHTCUI
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The firing pin dropping when you switch from safe to fire isn't operator error, it's a #### design. Reject whatever reality you want, but if a manufacturer puts out a recall it's because the gun isn't functioning like a safe firearm should.
 
r34skyline said:
Since the reading comprehension on this thread seems to be below grade 4 level I will spell it out that the Tikka was used as an example among many, yes it is a budget gun built cheaply, and it being a better built firearm off the gate than a factory Rem 700 is precisely my point on why it's overrated. It's priced well above where it deserves to be, and as evidenced in the comments here has a cult like following that is baffling. It's like the Harley Davidson fans of the gun world. Loud, obnoxious, trumpeting an average to slightly below average at best firearm like it's a gift from the heavens.



The firing pin dropping when you switch from safe to fire isn't operator error, it's a #### design. Reject whatever reality you want, but if a manufacturer puts out a recall it's because the gun isn't functioning like a safe firearm should.
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An incorrectly done "User-adjustable trigger" can make this happen. I've seen it on Mausers with after-market triggers or safeties.
I have a couple Remington 700s and don't concern myself with the dreaded "Walker trigger of death". I practice safe firearm handling, regardless of manufacturer.
 
r34skyline said:
Since the reading comprehension on this thread seems to be below grade 4 level I will spell it out that the Tikka was used as an example among many, yes it is a budget gun built cheaply, and it being a better built firearm off the gate than a factory Rem 700 is precisely my point on why it's overrated. It's priced well above where it deserves to be, and as evidenced in the comments here has a cult like following that is baffling. It's like the Harley Davidson fans of the gun world. Loud, obnoxious, trumpeting an average to slightly below average at best firearm like it's a gift from the heavens.



The firing pin dropping when you switch from safe to fire isn't operator error, it's a #### design. Reject whatever reality you want, but if a manufacturer puts out a recall it's because the gun isn't functioning like a safe firearm should.
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Tikka's had a recall for exploding barrels at one point...no danger there at all lol
 
gobigorgohome said:
Savage Axis rifle

Working at Cabelas in post secondary, i heard every tall tale under the sun about them... "it's a tsck driver", "dropped my deer on a dead run at 500 yards, its a laser beam", "can't get a better rifle than that", "if you guys working here knew anything.anout business, you'd only sell the axis", "anyone that buys anyone but an axis is wasting wasting money"

They're cheap, over rated and over hyped. Triggers suck, stocks are flimsy, actions are gritty and gross.
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I have one and would never sell it - it shoots MOA all flipping day - and I didn't spend 4x for something that will do the same - I know it's hard when your trying to sell stuff that costs tonne's more that just sits on the rack
 
Hitzy said:
Tikka's had a recall for exploding barrels at one point...no danger there at all lol
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For the past almost eleven years straight each summer I prepare and attend a long range shooting session with metal gongs out to 1100 yards or thereabouts.

I use a totally stock 1995 Remington 700 Varmint HB in
308 Win. Lapua brass, 170 grain Lock base with my formula V powder. Federal match primers.
NF 12-42 power scope.

Any misses are my fault usually discerning wind strength. I never experienced any safety issues regarding this factory trigger group.

I would like to hear from other 700 owners whom have much more personal experience than myself.
Be it hunting, targets or whatever.

Cheers
 
There was a news show on TV a couple of years ago about a few fatalities involving some Remington 700's, the Walker triggers apparently malfunctioned.
In one case a woman was unloading her 700 and the gun fired, killing her son.

They interviewed a couple of gunsmiths if I remember, and they said there is nothing wrong with Remington's Walker triggers,
keep it clean, don't modify it, and practice safe muzzle control when loading and unloading a firearm, common sense really,
but sense isn't necessarily common.

I've owned over a dozen Remington 700 BDL's, and currently have three.
Most of them are deadly accurate and function flawlessly.
I can't speak to the newer rifles, but I keep an eye out for the older pre-1990 700's.

I like the fact that the magazines are long enough allowing me to seat the bullets out to the lands, thus improving accuracy considerably.
Something that can't be said for other well known rifles out there, Tikka, Winchester 70's and Ruger 77's to name a few,
(at least the ones I have owned and/or looked at)

If you don't reload, you're stuck with the limitations of shooting factory ammo in a factory rifle.
 
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track said:
Awe, that's unfortunate, Rman. I was going to gift this rifle to you, however since it is chambered in the 30-06 Springfield. All it does is collect dust in the vault.
https://imgur.com/a/8gjQmcQ
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Your gift is fully accepted! When can it be expected? A week or two?
A new bolt, and a re chamber to a cartridge worthy of such a fine rifle, 300 H&H, would be obtained upon receipt.
Unless, of course, your offer is false?

R.
 
Anything that has a detachable blind magazine has some paper pushing moron behind it. Albiet they probably shoot better than most 10/22’s you can’t fix stupid.

SCG
 
10/22.

Jam fest, right out of the box. ammo doesn't matter, cleaning doesn't matter, using the factory 10 rnd clip.........also doesn't matter.
 
Brutus said:
Gets it reputation in the gopher fields. Less likely to jam the bolt from dirty ammo.
It never was terribly accurate in its original form.
The 10/22 target variant is like picking up a three foot section of railway track. And in its booklet it's said to never try to chamber Stinger ammunition.
Who the hell wants to buy any 10/22 you can't fire any Stangers???
Lol
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My opinion of the 10/22 not withstanding , I don't
have any .22 that has or will shoot ''stangers''.
 
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