At the 2011 IDPA World Shoot, Glock (37%) and Smith & Wesson (30%) combined for 67% of the pistols used in competition. For the 2012 Carolina Cup that number climbed to 70.6%, according to results of an equipment survey conducted by IDPA.
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At the 2011 IDPA World Shoot, Glock (37%) and Smith & Wesson (30%) combined for 67% of the pistols used in competition. For the 2012 Carolina Cup that number climbed to 70.6%, according to results of an equipment survey conducted by IDPA.
I think IDPA publishes this list but USPSA doesn't.. but here's what I could find from 2008 for USPSA:
Glock 52%
CZ 14%
S&W 13%
Springfield 11%
Sig 4 %
I couldn't find a more recent list with figures but checking out the top shooters in recent years, it's still Glock and M&P that have like 80% at least among the top shooters.
In IPSC Canada, CZ has to be at least 50% for Production Division. To be honest, I would guess more like 65%+. I know why CZs are popular to shoot for Production here but I wonder why there is such a huge difference in popularity. Considering the reasons for its popularity up here (basically so easy to shoot it improves everyone's performance measurably), you'd think CZ would be more popular in the US as well. Not that I'm complaining because I personally am not a fan of CZs and am happier to see more Glocks and M&Ps but you'd think at least SOME more Americans would switch over even if only for the obvious performance gains.
Glock 52%
CZ 14%
S&W 13%
Springfield 11%
Sig 4 %
I couldn't find a more recent list with figures but checking out the top shooters in recent years, it's still Glock and M&P that have like 80% at least among the top shooters.
In IPSC Canada, CZ has to be at least 50% for Production Division. To be honest, I would guess more like 65%+. I know why CZs are popular to shoot for Production here but I wonder why there is such a huge difference in popularity. Considering the reasons for its popularity up here (basically so easy to shoot it improves everyone's performance measurably), you'd think CZ would be more popular in the US as well. Not that I'm complaining because I personally am not a fan of CZs and am happier to see more Glocks and M&Ps but you'd think at least SOME more Americans would switch over even if only for the obvious performance gains.
Ya, good call. Most definitely could be the case. In fact it is pretty much my mindset. I could have the guns I like more (Glock, M&P) for personal use and buy a Shadow to do better at IPSC but then I'd need multiple holsters, etc so I just use what I already got/like. Plus I already hate the gaming level that takes place in IPSC so my stubbornness forces me to make sure I do the exact opposite.
I was thinking this or just the fact that people generally tend to resist change so if they've been shooting brand X for years, they don't feel like switching over.
I thought maybe it was sponsorship but I don't think this is the case because as far as I know, Glock is still not sponsoring Bob Vogel (which is baffling to me since I personally consider him the best practical shooter of all time) and I know CZ is active in sponsoring down there (like Angus Hobdell).
I'm not an IPSC shooter of any sort, but it seems to me that CZ is a fad amongst shooters lately. No one's denying they're fine pieces, but the fact that everyone has one seems to me to be more "keeping up with the Jones'" than any sort of true shooting preference, imho. This is evident by the jump in pricing we're seeing on CZ SP-01 Shadows.
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The reason has more to do with USPSA vs. IPSC Production Division rules. In USPSA there are no regulations regarding the weight of the trigger pull for the first shot and internal modifications are permitted. Also, the G34 is on the "approved" list for USPSA production.
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this, altho there is an upswing in the states in regards to more shadows and tanfoglios in production
As I understand it, in the US, the Glock 34 is legal for production class in USPSC. In Canada it has to compete in the same class as the 1911 type guns like the STI Edge.
The CZ Shadow is not legal in IDPA but unlike the Glock 34 it is legal for production class in IPSC.
The CZ Shadow is not legal in IDPA but unlike the Glock 34 it is legal for production class in IPSC.
Thread is a bit of a misnomer as these stats are from the Carolina Cup not the US Nationals. That said Glock & M&P variants dominate IDPA now. One reason for the absence of DA/A guns is the relatively heavy first pull required in SSP Division from the first DA trigger pull. In IPSC Production Division only the first shot must be over 5#'s, thence light SA pulls. In IDPA there is no similar requirement for a 5# first pull and light pulling Glocks and M&P's (Glock 34 and Pros) are far more prevalent. If you choose to shoot a Glock or M&P in IPSC Production every shot will be made with a 5#+ trigger pull.
Sometimes the rules play into the choice of which guns dominate.
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Bob
Sometimes the rules play into the choice of which guns dominate.
Take Care
Bob
I'd dispute the fad notion. I originally got my RPAL just because I learned that we have IPSC and other such events up this way. Otherwise I realized after my second rental range session that simply standing and perforating paper gets old real fast. That same range had a wide variety of guns for rent and I tried 'em all. I quickly came to the conclusion that all my favourites were hammer style DA/SA guns and I was about to rush out and buy a Jericho when someone let me try their CZ Shadow. It was simply and surely love at first trigger pull. No "fad" and no brainwashing required at all.
If there is ANY degree of brainwashing going on it's from the Glock side of the family what with the Glock faithful jumping in heavily into every "what first handgun should I buy" thread going.
I'm not saying that I look down my nose at Glocks. I shoot them just fine. As well as my CZ's in fact. I simply don't like the feel of the grips or the trigger feel of the striker style action.
