Most powerfull 12gauge slug

[bobpel]

What is the most powerfull 12gauge rifled slug we can find in Canada. The purpose is for defense against polar bears for someone during an expedition in the north. He came here from europe with Brenneke "S" series slug which are 3 inches, 24g (0.85 ounce), 2018 fps and 3348 ft-lbs.

What i found up to now is less powerfull :
Federal F131RS 3", 1600fps 1 1/4oz 3109ft-lb

Robert

 

[Jay]

I like the Score Slugs that AmmoKate sells... Not sure what they rate in power... They are 1 & 1 1/8 oz slugs, your choice...

I'm a fan of the 2 & 3/4 length shells... When the sh1t hits the fan, the last thing you need is a short stroke & jam...

www.ammosupply.ca

Cheers
Jay

 

[B]

I like the Score Slugs that AmmoKate sells... Not sure what they rate in power... They are 1 & 1 1/8 oz slugs, your choice...

Cheers
Jay

Those weights include the plastic base. They are also a lot slower than advertised.

 

[Jay]

Those weights include the plastic base. They are also a lot slower than advertised.

Dang! Details B? What fps are they?

Cheers
Jay

 

[rifleman338]

For a full bore slug in a smooth bore, it would be hard to beat the Brenneke. Another one to consider is the Remington Buck Hammer, but these were made to run in a rifled barrel.

 

[B]

Dang! Details B? What fps are they?

Cheers
Jay

Both run just over 1300fps out of my 14" guns, with the "1 oz" running only about 20fps faster. I am gonna see if a 20" tube is any better next time I bring out the chronograph.

 

[Jay]

Both run just over 1300fps out of my 14" guns, with the "1 oz" running only about 20fps faster. I am gonna see if a 20" tube is any better next time I bring out the chronograph.

Makes me wonder if the velocity claims of the other manufacturers is factual? I guess the only way to find out is to run them over a chrono?

Cheers
Jay

 

[577/450]

Do a search for :: shotgun from hell:: solid slugs going 2800fps if IIRC

 

[weasel1]

ww.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=178655

 

[B]

Makes me wonder if the velocity claims of the other manufacturers is factual? I guess the only way to find out is to run them over a chrono?

Cheers
Jay

Federal and Winchester are damn close with 18.5" barrels. Staying on topic the best slug for any dangerous animal is pretty much anything from brenneke. A few of the sponsors have a couple options, they aren't cheap though.

 

[inthehizzy]

Brenneke/Rio, obviously. Sourcing them isn't easy, price is up there. I'd also look at Federal 'Deep Penetrator' and Kent 10-point 3in. which uses the 'Thug Slug' at 1750fps.

 

[tjhaile]

Federal Truball Deep Penetrator slugs are indeed a viable Brenneke alternative that may be easier to find.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4340-12-gauge-shotgun-loads-for-LE-duty-use

The biggest downside of most shotgun slugs, especially against large animals, is that they expand. Given the low sectional density of any sort of slug, any expansion is necessarily detrimental to adequate penetration. A 12-gauge diameter projectile doesn't need to expand any more; is already expanded!

In general, my recommendation is to not get caught up in velocity/energy figures and concentrate on projectile design.

 

[Coachgun67]

^^^...good old .69 round ball comes to mind.

CG

 

[Scotty454]

3" Remington Sluggers are up there, I suppose. 1oz, 1760 FPS advertised.

Still, nothing would beat those .85oz slugs at OVER 2k FPS... Jebus.

 

[brybenn]

Brenneke gold 3" mag 600 gr. For rifled barrels only. Amazing power

 

[prairie lover]

challenger has some that are no slouch either. what you don't want it is forester slugs. there kinda soft.

 

[ichbins]

Challenger slugs are relatively cheap (about $2/ea) and available. Advertised 1600fps at 2-3/4", and the projectile is the "Dangerous Game" slug made by BPI: http://www.ballisticproducts.com/12ga-DGS-12-Slug-25_pak/productinfo/0721612/

They hit hard and are made out of hard lead for good penetration without deformation, but they aren't quite as powerful as the Brenneke's.

 

[merlin1]

Remington hi -velocity 2=3/4 inch 1800 fps 3 inch is 1875fps

 

[dilly]

I tried the first generation Remington "buck hammer" slug. This was before they came in reduced recoil. They shot true as anything but shook your fillings loose. I couldn't get used to them so I abandoned that project. Not sure if they still make them. They were punishing.
Then there are those 2 1/4 oz turkey loads...whoa nelly!

 

[Boomer]

What is the most powerfull 12gauge rifled slug we can find in Canada. The purpose is for defense against polar bears for someone during an expedition in the north. He came here from europe with Brenneke "S" series slug which are 3 inches, 24g (0.85 ounce), 2018 fps and 3348 ft-lbs.

What i found up to now is less powerfull :
Federal F131RS 3", 1600fps 1 1/4oz 3109ft-lb

Robert

I like the Brenneke 600 gr 3" in circumstances where I have a shotgun rather than a rifle. You won't get much penetration from that light a slug, the diameter is too large, and the velocity will bleed off very rapidly . . .

The 600 gr Brenneke is quite comforting when . . .


Recovered 600 gr Brennekes with a recovered Federal foster . . .


Challenger slugs, like the one below are my second choice . . .


The real question before you proceed on your odyssey is whether or not you've ever killed a big animal, and if so, what where the circumstances? The question is rhetorical, and you don't need to answer, but I wanted to get your attention. Its important to know that there is more to this stuff than the act of carrying a gun. If you don't shoot before the bear makes contact, or if you do shoot in time, but don't know where to place that slug, neither the type of slug you choose, nor that fact that you have a gun might help very much. If you're an old hand, disregard; no disrespect intended.