Most Reliable Tactical Semi-Auto

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Input please for the most reliable semi-auto / tactical Shotgun.

There are a great variety of these, with many looking like copies of each other, but hard to find a clear comparison between the following. That said, the Derya Mk 12, once properly broken in, seems to have the most positive feedback I found online.

What are your experiences as an owner of any of the following :

1. Derya Mk 12

2. Typhoon F 12

3. Revolutionary Arms SAV 12

4. Match 1919

5. Axor MF 2

6. Alpharms 15 SAFR

7. Kral Super Tec 12

8. Pallas PX 2

The goal is to keep the cost at 1,000 or below and in the AR style fashion.
 
Wallenstein said:
Input please for the most reliable semi-auto / tactical Shotgun.

There are a great variety of these, with many looking like copies of each other, but hard to find a clear comparison between the following. That said, the Derya Mk 12, once properly broken in, seems to have the most positive feedback I found online.

What are your experiences as an owner of any of the following :

1. Derya Mk 12

2. Typhoon F 12

3. Revolutionary Arms SAV 12

4. Match 1919

5. Axor MF 2

6. Alpharms 15 SAFR

7. Kral Super Tec 12

8. Pallas PX 2

The goal is to keep the cost at 1,000 or below and in the AR style fashion.
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Cancel those in red, and also consider the Final Defense FD12. The FD12 is very well laid out and is well made with a almost San 550 smooth action and best of all its ridiculously compact, but if your hell bent on AR like I say the F12, TacOrd is even making custom F12's now, so that should mean something.
 
onetwentyish said:
Cancel those in red, and also consider the Final Defense FD12. The FD12 is very well laid out and is well made with a almost San 550 smooth action and best of all its ridiculously compact, but if your hell bent on AR like I say the F12, TacOrd is even making custom F12's now, so that should mean something.
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Curious if you have experience with the FD12?

One of my main objectives in attending TACCOM was to check out the different tactical shottys to help in my decision making and the one that REALLY stood out to me was the FD12. It was seemingly an exceptionally well built firearm.

I am a huge tactical style firearms guy so I have an idea of what I want in a shotgun but I have ZERO experience with any of the tactical style shotguns.

ANY input on the FD12 would be greatly appreciated.
 
jiffx2781 said:
Curious if you have experience with the FD12?

One of my main objectives in attending TACCOM was to check out the different tactical shottys to help in my decision making and the one that REALLY stood out to me was the FD12. It was seemingly an exceptionally well built firearm.

I am a huge tactical style firearms guy so I have an idea of what I want in a shotgun but I have ZERO experience with any of the tactical style shotguns.

ANY input on the FD12 would be greatly appreciated.
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Ditto, would be pleased to know more about that one, too.
 
I just cleaned my Derya Mk12 tonight after an entire summer of shooting and an IPSC match. Not cleaned all summer. Not one malfunction. Must be luck lol.

Cheers
Moe
 
jiffx2781 said:
Curious if you have experience with the FD12?

One of my main objectives in attending TACCOM was to check out the different tactical shottys to help in my decision making and the one that REALLY stood out to me was the FD12. It was seemingly an exceptionally well built firearm.

I am a huge tactical style firearms guy so I have an idea of what I want in a shotgun but I have ZERO experience with any of the tactical style shotguns.

ANY input on the FD12 would be greatly appreciated.
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Wallenstein said:
Ditto, would be pleased to know more about that one, too.
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I have had a FD12 for close to a year now, it has proven to be a worth while investment, and is holding up excellent. I have a couple hundred rounds of slug, buck, and target load through it. Had a few stove pipes in the early break in, but other than that even the target loads cycle fine as long as the dram is high enough. Ergos are well thought out and the all aluminum upper and lower make it feel strong and tight fitting.

That said there are a few things that bug me:
1) takedown is not a simple job, especially since the rcmp made Trigger Wholesale remove the barrel shroud for civi sales (I fully intend to replace it and be rid of that dumb takedown wrench)
2)Turkish specs are not nato. Lol. The top pic rail is considerably undersize and many BUIS and optic mounts will have trouble tightening down far enough.
3) QC missed or didn't care that my FD12's upper has some machining irregularities. Their design incorporates some aesthetic cuts towards the front of the handguard in between the pic rails and the Machine Cuts so close to going all the way through that if the tolerances get to loose it actually does just barely cut through in places which happened online on one side but not the other lol. Doesn't bother me all that much though because I plan to have the pic rails mailed off of mine and go with m-lok and completely Mill out those aesthetic cuts in the process to decrease weight.
 
I also have an FD12 and aside from the ridiculously heavy trigger I started with I’m quite happy with it. Build quality seems very good. I’m about 150 rounds in also with a few stove pipes.
 
caver77 said:
Why not any of the benelli m4 clones?
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Sulun Arms and / or Turknelli ?

They seem to be clones of the M4, almost identical.

I presume there is one factory that pumps out the whole lot and then a different label gets put on the boxes going out.

That said if the Sulun Arms and / or the Turknelli were good then that would be worth knowing.
 
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