I find it interesting that the action was pretty much trued right out of the box. I've read a few other incidents with the 5R, where the action has been taken to a gun smith and found to be pretty good already. It makes me wonder if the rumors about this rifle being from the custom shop while not being a custom shop item, are true?
Mostly Custom 5R Mil-Spec from Guntech
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We had a fellow bring 1 in today that the bolt is so loose in the action the sear on the trigger will not engage the striker 5 out of 6 times.
I am debating bushing the rear of the bolt or replacing it so the rifle will #### and fire reliably.
I think like all models of all makes of everything made, there are some exceptionally good 1s made and some that should never have seen the marketplace.
I have two of the 5R rifles. One is scoped and I've shot. The other is NIB (except the trigger has been lowered to 3 pounds). Both have tight lock ups and excellent triggers right out of the box, except for the 5 pound pull. I've bought them from different retailers and the only difference I've noticed is that one stock is smoother than the other. Otherwise they both lock up tight and seem the same.
I can however relate to this. I have a Remington XR-100 that I had to have a bolt sleeve put on and the trigger replaced with a shillen. While other examples I've shot had very good triggers and locked up tight.
I agree with what Rick said. I believe Remington qc has gone down in the recent future and have seen it with issued rifles. It is a crap shoot with mass produced factory rifles which the 5R, 700P and LTR are. If the shooter doesn't do his part the rifle means squat, even a custom gun. With all things being equal though, a custom rifle with match grade components whether assembled by a competent gunsmith or reputable manufacturer will be a world of difference in the hand of shooter capable of exploiting the accuracy of the rifle.
I do generally agree with what you've posted, however I wouldn't really call the 5R completely a factory rifle. They don't actually "produce" this rifle as a factory rifle. The only other rifle from Remington with the 5R barrel is the M24 Sniper rifle. They don't make this barrel for the regular 700. Also the action is Satin bead blasted stainless unlike the other Remington 700 stainless steel receiver models. There's a little more to these rifles than the regular ones. They aren't a full out custom, but I'd be hesitant to lump them in as a regular factory rifle.
Keep in mind there are always lemons even in the top end stuff. Most of the reviews however have shown that the 5R has a very good track record for shooting well right out of the box. Mine hasn't disappointed me.
Ultimately a custom is the way to go. But the costs are significantly more and I've seen full customs that haven't shot any better than my 5R. But they are significantly more expensive. Would I like a full out custom. Yup some day. But I won't be getting rid of the 5R.
Also in terms of collecting, the 5R has some value due to it's somewhat vague background details, fairly low availability and reputation as an exceptional shooter.
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I was not for an instant suggesting that the 5Rs are junk. Just mentioning like all makes and models of all goods made today, there are some that fall far short of passing QC. The 1s I have experience with for the most part were pretty well put together.
Knowing a fair bit about Remingtons Custom shop and about their parts suppliers in general, I feel that "the Custom Shop" may be slightly over rated.
I suspect that if they called it the "somewhat better than the main factory QC shop" it would have the same ring though.
So what it has taken 3 pages to say is, some factory rifles are good, some factory rifles are not, many customs builds are amazing, some custom builds are not and in the end it's the hitter not the bat that makes all the difference...awesome dudes...if pointing out the obvious were a super power...we'd all be wearing capes.
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So what it has taken 3 pages to say is, some factory rifles are good, some factory rifles are not, many customs builds are amazing, some custom builds are not and in the end it's the hitter not the bat that makes all the difference...awesome dudes...if pointing out the obvious were a super power...we'd all be wearing capes.
I think you missed the main point of the thread.
The main point is Ray is a lucky SOB
He got lucky with a rifle from the factory that was true which normally translates in to a better rifle overall and saved Dennis some work.
He got lucky in the fact that he did not have to wait 1/2 a year for parts as someone already had them in stock when Ray called.
AND Dennis was able to get the work done in short order to provide Ray with a superb rifle.
I think you missed the main point of the thread.
The main point is Ray is a lucky SOB
He got lucky with a rifle from the factory that was true which normally translates in to a better rifle overall and saved Dennis some work.
He got lucky in the fact that he did not have to wait 1/2 a year for parts as someone already had them in stock when Ray called.
AND Dennis was able to get the work done in short order to provide Ray with a superb rifle.
Fine...DAD!
So what it has taken 3 pages to say is, some factory rifles are good, some factory rifles are not, many customs builds are amazing, some custom builds are not and in the end it's the hitter not the bat that makes all the difference...awesome dudes...if pointing out the obvious were a super power...we'd all be wearing capes.
You're amazing and so smart.
You might wanna re-word that...
I'm glad someone else caught that one!!
