Movie with MAS36s!

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Its called Indigénes in France, and is about Algerians fighting for France in WW2. Just saw it being nominated on the Oscars (didnt win).

And apparently they still do not get a soldier's pension from the country they fought for. Quite dispicable.

Id imagine you would have to order it online, or go video hunting if you want to see it. I think itd be quite neato too see the MAS in action (in a movie, ofcourse ;) )
 
There is a scene in the begining of We Were Soldiers where the viet-phu or whatever ambush a french platoon. Many of the french troops defend themselves with the MAS 36.
 
Skippy said:
There is a scene in the begining of We Were Soldiers where the viet-phu or whatever ambush a french platoon. Many of the french troops defend themselves with the MAS 36.
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yeah I remember that scene. Youd think theyd have MAS49's wouldnt you?
 
Bear in mind the MAS49 was considered by many in the French military a sub-standard arm and a replacement was under development almost form the get-go. Meanshile the MAS36 and MAS36-51 were manufactured until 1956 - well into French troubles in indo-china.
 
BBq_Woa! said:
MAS's are poopy
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Have you ever shot one? The MAS36 was arguably one of the better bolt actions of the war and the MAS44 was probably a better rifle than the G/K43. The round was basically the .308, but invented in 1936 as opposed to 1954.

Your statement frankly lacks any credibility given your lack of justification for why they are "poopy" - though I suspect you are likely voicing your dislike of France's politics through trashing their WW2 era rifle.
 
Claven2 said:
Have you ever shot one? The MAS36 was arguably one of the better bolt actions of the war and the MAS44 was probably a better rifle than the G/K43. The round was basically the .308, but invented in 1936 as opposed to 1954.

Your statement frankly lacks any credibility given your lack of justification for why they are "poopy" - though I suspect you are likely voicing your dislike of France's politics through trashing their WW2 era rifle.
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I saw a close to mint MAS 36-51 for sale on the EE a few months ago. It had a really interesting bayonet setup. Not something I've ever desired to own but it looked to be a nice rifle. I've never seen one in the flesh...
 
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Despite the lack of a safety, I still love mine.
 
Claven2 said:
Have you ever shot one? The MAS36 was arguably one of the better bolt actions of the war and the MAS44 was probably a better rifle than the G/K43. The round was basically the .308, but invented in 1936 as opposed to 1954.

Your statement frankly lacks any credibility given your lack of justification for why they are "poopy" - though I suspect you are likely voicing your dislike of France's politics through trashing their WW2 era rifle.
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When was the M44 first used in action? Was it designed before the war?

As for me, I have not shot my MAS36, as I cant find any damn ammunition! But as for the rifle itself, it is very handy, and I especially like the bayonette. Also, I can see the advantages of the aperture sight compared to the k98k's sights! The bolt is rather awkward, and extremely long, and a lack of a safety is a potentially dangerous omission. Other than that it is more than a match for any of the war's other rifles.
 
Skippy Despite the lack of a safety said:
never rely on a saftey Ive NEVER used mine on any guns


I wish most guns had no saftey I bet many accidents are due to "safties"

I fired on of those french rifles once not my thing plus i dislike the french......
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Claven2 said:
Have you ever shot one? The MAS36 was arguably one of the better bolt actions of the war and the MAS44 was probably a better rifle than the G/K43. The round was basically the .308, but invented in 1936 as opposed to 1954.
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The MAS 44 was designed DURING NAZI occupation. It is the result of a progression of developments starting before WWI: (to mention just a few) the MAS 1928-33, MAS 1934, MAS 1938, MAS 1938-39, the MAS 1939-39 and MAS 1940. To think that all semi-automatic rifle design initiative was in the US with Mr. Garand is highly prejudicial against the decades of work done by the French. The fact is the British have been suspicious of France forever, and Americans dismiss all things French as a rule. So, very little complementary is ever published in English.

The 7.5x54 French cartridge was designed in 1929, using a bullet formalized in 1924.

("Proud Promise" by Jean Huon, from Collector Grade Publications. 1995)
 
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Cantom, good one.
But I do beleive that is referred to as a stacking swivel, so one can build a tripod out of three of these rifles to keep them out of the dirt, and generally try to look orderly/military.

I could be wrong on the exact term though...
 
Skippy said:
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Despite the lack of a safety, I still love mine.
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Personally I like the look of it.

A few months back I handled one in a local gun store, and was surprised how heavy there are. IMHO they are real solid rifles.
If I had one I'd try to get the chamber re done to .308 win (if possible) or something more common then it's original cartridge. :)
 
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Calum said:
Personally I like the look of it.

A few months back I handled one in a local gun store, and was surprised how heavy there are. IMHO they are real solid rifles.
If I had one I'd try to get the chamber re done to .308 win (if possible) or something more common then it's original cartridge. :)
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That's a great idea...one of those rechambered to 7.62 would be a nice rifle.
 
There's one of these clunkers sitting on the rack at the local den of thieves....I mean, local gunshop.
I believe it's only about $150.
Is it worth buying it?
I guess price is a factor.
I can probably get ammo as Privi Partizan (sold here as Highland Ammo) makes factory ammo and brass 7.5x54 French (and 7.5 Swiss too for that matter).
I think you usually pay between $50 & $60 per 100 cases, which is about normal and pretty good for rare brass.
But how do they shoot and am I likely to have a bad bore?
Was the mil ammo corrosively primed?
And are they just a .308 bore or am I going to have the devil's own job getting the right pills for them?
Further, what sort of twist do they have....1:12? 1:10? 1:9?
Basically, how heavy can I go with bullets?
Finally, what sort of pressures do you run, Skippy?
 
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