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You folks will have to forgive me but I'm a computer challenged old fart and have failed miserably at posting pics.

Last weekend I purchased a 1946 date C No7 22in MkI rifle.

It looks to be correct and like my MP marked No 4 MkI* for which I have provenance for it also has the extra D&T hole halfway down the butt socket, which is intended for mounting a target sight.

It does have the regular windage/elevation adjustable rear sight found on these rifles and the serial numbers match

Serial number range is 1L5***.

The rifle hasn't seen much use and is in VG+ condition. Like the No4 I have it looks like the receiver has been bedded. It does have the swivel type PH swivel King Screw target sling mount.

I haven't been able to find any information on these rifles and to tell the truth I wasn't aware the RCMP had used them.

If anyone has any REAL pertinent information on where to look for provenance I would be very appreciative.
 
I no longer have either rifle.

The No7 apparently was "requisitioned" from one of the local detachments.

It is the only one I've seen with an MP stamp on the receiver.

You folks must be getting extremely bored to resurrect this boring post????
 
Lol seems to be some revived interest in No7s of late. One of the mods just built one.

Here's mine, and is the rifle I shoot the most frequently - bought from a gun show and came with transit box. Super unfortunate that the original "requisitioner" decided to deface the MP marking, doh:

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Cheers.
 
Hi points from Vancouver. I enjoyed your entry on this post from Milsurps Library. I wondered if anyone noticed that the 1946
rifle that they have extensively photographed is a made-up piece? The hand guard should be serated and it is missing the sight
windage spring and retaining screw from the right side of the body. Their information is not too bad though. JOHN
 
The article referenced in post #5 is mostly an article I wrote for milsurps over a decade ago. The rifleman website appears to have added some conjecture to the article, which somewhat confuses it and in some cases downright adds some wrong information. The release of hundreds of scrubbed receivers, and their re-assembly into rifles by enthusiasts, really can muddy the water regarding serial number rationalization. But good high definition photos of the wrist will normally discern the factory assembled rifles from the home assembled rifles.

Since the article was written I have come to be aware that there were further Cno7s made with 1951 and 1953 dates and numbered starting with 2L. I have seen evidence that they likely only numbered perhaps into the 2L300 serial range.
In my own collection I have a 53 dated receiver with no serial number ever having been applied to it. As well, I have a receiver which never had a year added to the nomenclature. Both had been built into post-factory assembled rifles.

Regarding the RCMP and the Cno7s, it would seem that detachments may have had one or two (or more) Cno7s. Unknown if these were for youth shooting programs, or RCMP practice. I bought a pile of transit chests out of Regina that were full of wood and parts. The shipping tags on the chests were for the various RCMP detachments, and there was a sling stenciled for the RCMP. It seemed like a lot of parts and pieces made it out on the market out of the Regina depot back in the day. . I heard rumours on how , but since they are just rumours, I'll let them rest.

Regarding the correct top wood, there was in fact a different NATO stock number along with a separate drawing number for the rear top wood on the Cno7 rifle. How it differed from the no4 rifle I cannot say.

Another difference from the article to present day is that the majority of Cno7 rifles in Cdn service have been dactivated and re-issued as drill purpose rifles to the cadets. I had rebuilt a bare receiver/barrel for a local DND museum back around 2000. About 4 years ago they were directed to turn it back in for deactivation. The museum was able to convert the NSN to a museum number and the rifle was left alone.
 
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Deactivating a .22 trainer sets my heart to sob.
I have one of those surplus receiver builds. All correct but for a sleeved #4 barrel. So not correct. It was pretty bashed up when I got it so I rebuilt it with new wood and made it pretty as it was what it was.
 
Sorry for my rant but this is one of my pet peeves!

C No.7 rifles are still in service and are being used by Canadian Army cadets.
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I have been told by a reliable source that there are many, many rifles, in unissued condition, still in stores in Ottawa.

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And sadly yes, the rifles are being recalled from units and being turned into DP by a mig weld at the nuzzle and at the breech. Bolt, safety and rearsight removed.

Talking to the weapons techs, spare parts are drying up. At annual weapons inspection (similar to a traveling view) many rifles have been culled because they been found to have a bolt track that is worn away or chipped at the bolt release, thus creating a sharp edge that can cut cadets' fingers. They all have a million miles on them.

22s (LE and Anschutz) are held only by Cadet units that are active in the sport of biathlon.

All live 303 rifles were withdrawn a number of years ago from Cadet units for reissue to the Canadian Rangers.

The marksmanship training program at the unit level has been gutted to be politically correct (no child soldiers!!!????) and is now conducted with a .177 daisy air rifle.

It is sad.

Rant over.
 

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All live 303 rifles were withdrawn a number of years ago from Cadet units for reissue to the Canadian Rangers.
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An update to that is that last year all the .303 Enfield rifles, and all parts which were uniquely for the support of the .303 Enfield, were given the code of 1B and are or have been disposed of. A number of the rifles are being deactivated at Colt Canada for issue to CF museums. Parts that were for both the Cno7 and the Cno4s are still active numbers, since the Cno7 remains in service in varying forms.
 
Further to the OP's question away back in this string, yes, the No. 7s were used by the RCMP in Depot Division in Regina for indoor range shooting instruction and practice when I received my recruit training there between May and December, 1964. I don't recall whether those No. 7s were marked MP or not. I have my former detachment rifle from the Haines Junction and Burwash Landing, Y.T. detachments, a LE No. 4 Mk1*, marked MP. I also have a No. 7 in its original transit case from the estate of a late friend who bought it some time in the 1950s through the DCRA, if my memory is to be trusted.
 
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