mr1 or ar 15

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Looking to the experts for the comparison between the mr1 vs ar15. I know the mr1 is a sweet gun and non-restricted but what are the real differences? build quality ? longevity.And why is the mr1 non-restricted
 
The ar is a proven design, the mr1 not so much, handle the two in my opinion the mr1 has slightly weird manual of arms, I find the ar manual arms to be more intuitive. Most ar15s are lighter than mr1. both accept stanag type mags, Not sure the mr1 can handle the same level of abuse. Do you plan on customizing your rifle? Lots of aftermarket stuff for the ar, not so much for mr1.
 
I do like all the stuff i can get for it but i am having trouble finding a close range to me that is not full !! Where is if i had the mr1 at least i can use it ! If the mr1 is just as good as the AR tough wise and than i could use it where ever and when ever and not just locked down to a range ?
 
Mine was incredibly reliable with everything except hollow points. Its a good reliable operating system but the ergos are something else. Its not heavy unless you're a pussy and its quick pointing but the controls are pretty bad. Expect to hit the mag release with your left thumb and pull the bolt release with your left hand. Sights are crude but effective and scoping is difficult. They shoot well and can go a long time without a cleaning, groups hold together when the barrel gets hot. Fit and finish is Benelli. Nuff said bout that. I'd still take an AR if they were non restricted but until then I like my XCR.
 
The MR-1 should be a great gun.

If you're having trouble finding a range, then you might be doomed to the world of NR, and in the end, the best gun is the one you can use frequently.

As mentioned, the only real downside with the Mr-1 is it's controls. They are completely: "WTF where they thinking!?!"

AR are the Gold standard of Ergo's and Control layout. However, if you aren't used to either, it would make little difference to you, and by the time it actually matters and you go looking for another rifle, you will know well enough what you want that you won't even have to ask such a question.

I'm blessed, being a member of a full features, easy going range, that is no further a commute for then it would be to go out to a good NR shooting location.
So, for me, the AR be all and end all answer, and it brings me to a happy place.
 
I have an MR1 and I love it. I had to take the rear iron sight off to get the scope to sit properly, but that was an easy decision. I have no problem plinking milk jugs at 300 yards with my 3-9 with BDC reticle and surplus .223 ammo. It also needs to be cleaned less frequently than an AR and the cleaning process is a lot easier. If you want something with an endless supply of 'tacticool' mods that you can only shoot at a range, get an AR. If you want something you can actually go out with and use reliably, get the MR1.
 
Yes and no. In the reliability and accuracy department the MR1 is up there with the good ARs but as mentioned the controls suck in comparison. Ergos are like a shotgun which isn't bad except it eliminates a lot of the things that make an AR a great rifle. They have a small market spot that they fit into but they are no competitor to the AR.

Is there even a comparison to be made between an MR1 and an AR of the same $$ value???!!!!
 
Thanks for all the input boys ! I own an AR now but the closest range taking members is a hour and a half away. Have not used it yet but love the thing !! Just didnt know if i should get rid of it for the MR1 ? Thinking strongly on the side of keeping it but dont like how i just cant shoot it when i want ! The ACR is nice but are very expencive. Dont know if i would spend that much.
Well maybe just wait on the calling list till i can get into a range closer. I am all ears to your sugestions and ideas !! Thanks !!
 
I don't know if the XCR-L turns your crank but it is also NR and price-wise is in the ball park with the MR-1. VG-EX condition used ones often go for under $2K and they have more customizing potential than the MR-1. In fact if you're willing to go $2K you can get an HK SL8 which is also NR. They seem to have very good reviews although the looks may not be a streamlined as the others.
 
Yes and no. In the reliability and accuracy department the MR1 is up there with the good ARs but as mentioned the controls suck in comparison. Ergos are like a shotgun which isn't bad except it eliminates a lot of the things that make an AR a great rifle. They have a small market spot that they fit into but they are no competitor to the AR.

Supernova, that was a rhetorical question ;)
 
I need clear, defined labels on such things otherwise I fly off on a tangent :p

Supernova, that was a rhetorical question ;)

Op: look into an 858 for NR fun. They kick more ass than an MR1 any day and can be set up to nip on the ARs heels in terms of ergos and controls. Ammo is cheap and you don't have to crawl through grass and bush to find your brass! A magnet on a stick, a bucket and a friend losing a bet will take care of the cleanup :D
 
I like my MR1 a lot. It is well built, high quality and the gas piston means less cleaning if you're lazy.

It also feeds Winchester hollowpoints which choke my CQA.

I love that it is NR and am waiting for an angle mount so that I can mount a small red dot on the side (I'm going to try to move the front ring back and them mount the red dot on the front of the rail). I have a 2 point 5.11 sling on it which works great and is very confortable.

All of the newbies that have shot it love it. They can hit clays at 100 yards, no problem.

Would I prefer to take my cheaper AR into the bush, sure. Can I with our ridiculous laws? No!

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Really, did you even bother to read his post?
I think the give away is where he begins his post with "I have an MR1 and love it."

Of course I read his post, but in his post he speaks of the AR in a comparative context. One who compares a gun they own to another gun they own, and have both shot a lot, makes a valid point. One who compares a gun they own to a gun they don't own, does not know what they are talking about. Hence my curiosity as to if he is making the comparison based on experience.

Some comparisons I'm hearing here are based on cliche AR myth, and are not fact.
A "good" AR is extremely reliable, and AR's in general are very easy to clean.
 
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