MR308 with 20" barrel

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In europe they just started shipping MR308s with 20" barrels.

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In europe they just started shipping MR308s with 20" barrels.

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I would like and extended rail guard first on my MR308, so the KAC is looking better and better with all cost tallying up on my MR308... Plus the 20 inch barrel does nothing for classification...Which is BS because you can't possibly turn that into Full-auto rifle, not without the most advanced machinery and totally butchering the firearm!

I love my MR308 but the whole MR series should be non restricted like most AR's out there according to our laws now in Canada..
 
Actually lieber, the frt lists the hk mr family as a gun that is restricted due to bbl length.

Until they "re-assess" the situation and apply the age old firearms lab wisdom - "if it can be made to take an AR upper, it's an AR". This of course will occur after you've received a reg cert that says Non-Restricted, taken the rifle into the bush and gotten yourself arrested, and after they've tuned up the old 3 angle boring mill. I do love our gun laws.
 
No ####. If they can list blowback .22s as AR variants, this one is done like dinner.
 
No i don't think so brother...I'm sure some dealers can weigh in here on this too...They listed it as another AR variant!

That's a negative. It's classed as 'Restricted' under the legal authority of CC 84(1) "restricted firearm" para. (b), which states:

"restricted firearm" means

(b) a firearm that
(i) is not a prohibited firearm,
(ii) has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and
(iii) is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner

You can ask anyone with access to the FRT (verifiers, businesses, museums, etc.) to look it up again and reconfirm if you honestly don't believe me. It's listed under the model of "MR" and "HK" as the mfg. They list the .223rem/5.56 NATO/.308win/7.62 NATO as variations of the "MR" rifle, all classed as restricted due to the same legal authority.
 
They have already classified the HK416 (and MR223, and HK417) as a variant of the AR15, and because the MR308 is a direct variant of the MR223, the MR308 will be classified as a variant of the AR15.....


just whats gonna happen....

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I'll gladly eat my own words if proven wrong though! :D
 
Actually lieber, the frt lists the hk mr family as a gun that is restricted due to bbl length.

Sorry, it's a variant.

You can ask anyone with access to the FRT (verifiers, businesses, museums, etc.) to look it up again and reconfirm if you honestly don't believe me. It's listed under the model of "MR" and "HK" as the mfg. They list the .223rem/5.56 NATO/.308win/7.62 NATO as variations of the "MR" rifle, all classed as restricted due to the same legal authority.

Just to clarify further... If you want a specific example, lookup the FRT for the LMT Defender 2000. Configurations with barrel lengths under 18.5" are classified as restricted due to barrel length; those with barrel lengths over 18.5" are classified as restricted due to being an AR variant. It's no different for the MR223 or MR308. Sorry, I wish it were not so - but the first 20" MR223 or MR308 will be classified and listed the same way... :(
 
Let's fight it in court then !!

+1

But who is going to anti up the money, I doubt anyone will come up with the cash. It's a sad, sad state of affairs indeed, if we loose in court on it in court the judge may actual make things worse and expand on the laws..

Not to sound like a defeatist but there are better battles out there to fight, like suppressor as mentioned by others is something we can prove makes no sense on the current classification!
 
I've mentioned suppressors a whole bunch of times. That what I'll spend my lotto winnings on !!! Now I just have to buy a ticket.
 
+1

But who is going to anti up the money, I doubt anyone will come up with the cash. It's a sad, sad state of affairs indeed, if we loose in court on it in court the judge may actual make things worse and expand on the laws..

Not to sound like a defeatist but there are better battles out there to fight, like suppressor as mentioned by others is something we can prove makes no sense on the current classification!

+1 as well. Is it really worth it to custom order-in an MR308 with 20" barrel ($4k+) just to then spend thousands of dollars additionally in legal fees fighting a futile court challenge when it's already been declared a variant? I think I'd rather buy a DSR-1 in .308 before going down this path...
 
Sorry, it's a variant.
It may be by design, but not by law! Yes I realize what you're saying, but the MR rifles are not currently classified as a variant or modification of the rifle commonly know as the M-16. The LMT Defender is restricted by both legal authorities, even though the shorter bbl lengths are only restricted by CC84(1)(b).
 
It may be by design, but not by law! Yes I realize what you're saying, but the MR rifles are not currently classified as a variant or modification of the rifle commonly know as the M-16. The LMT Defender is restricted by both legal authorities, even though the shorter bbl lengths are only restricted by CC84(1)(b).

I hate to burst your bubble, but it is by law as well. Import and register the first 20" MR223 or MR308 and you can be the proud recipient of that distinction... ;)
 
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