MRA Renegade Rifles, Parts, and Kits now available

STEELCITYSLICKER said:
If a manual action firearm can collapse to be less than 26", it would be considered "restricted".

A manual action firearm with a fixed stock, can be less than 26" and still stay non-restricted.

And I am not sure how you arrived at your claim of needing a 16" barrel + a muzzle device to reach overall length requirements.....
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He said with a folding stock. 660mm is the measurement in the shortest configuration while still being able to fire. A folding stock does not stop this from being able to discharge a round.
 
Shorerider said:
He said with a folding stock. 660mm is the measurement in the shortest configuration while still being able to fire. A folding stock does not stop this from being able to discharge a round.
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Fair enough. This entire conversation, I have been basing my comments on a collapsible stock - not folding. Admittedly I kept with that line of thinking, not seeing that he had started to reference a collapsible stock.
 
The interesting question, though, is whether Canadian law allows counting a muzzle device toward your 26 inches. I understand US law would say it has to be pinned, but Canadian law has the prerogative of being different. Given that it's installed with tools and not regularly coming off it does seem to count as part of the rifle as currently configured.
 
The importer seems to have deleted the thread, but here is the relevant information from their new thread:

Barrel: 16" Melonite Barrel
Stock: Folding Stock
Stag Arms 3G Compensator (not pictured)

So, the importer is confident enough in their feedback from the CFS and their own interpretation of the law that they put the money and time in to replace the compensator instead of pinning the stock permanently open to exceed the OAL minimum.

Unless the law changes, the muzzle devices should count towards the OAL for Renegade builds. The MRA Rock Solid Muzzle Brake would add 2.5 inches / 63.5 mm (minus the part that threads over the barrel) to the OAL, for example.

If the Renegade with a collapsed stock, a 10.5 " barrel, and a Rock Solid Muzzle device is just under the correct OAL, is creating a longer version of the brake reasonably possible for MRA, perhaps by duplicating another cavity and support ring?
 
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STEELCITYSLICKER said:
There was talk earlier in the thread about OAL.

I have decided to go with a 10.5" Ballistic Advantage .300AAC barrel and a magpul MOE fixed carbine stock. I'd that is too short, a rifle stock will be used.

Those combined with the OAL length of the receiver of 7.7" should get me awful close to the 26".

That said, from what I have been told and what I have read, the 26" OAL only applies if that length is achieved by collapsable stock.
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I have the exact same build going on,.... using a 10.5" barrel from Ballistic Advantage , 300 Blackout ( Saskatoon Gun works). with a muzzle break should put me in OAL 28.5"... should be fine.
 
rickspeed said:
I have the exact same build going on,.... using a 10.5" barrel from Ballistic Advantage , 300 Blackout ( Saskatoon Gun works). with a muzzle break should put me in OAL 28.5"... should be fine.
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Smart guy!! :) I had sourced my barrel from SGW as well. It was going to be for an AR build but.......yeah, stuff happened.

I'm not too confident in using a a muzzle brake to increase the OAL but will wait and see how the LOP feels with the fixed carbine stock. Im a bigger guy so I may end up going with the MOE rifle stock instead.

Either way, cant wait!
 
Ustauk said:
The importer seems to have deleted the thread, but here is the relevant information from their new thread:

Barrel: 16" Melonite Barrel
Stock: Folding Stock
Stag Arms 3G Compensator (not pictured)

So, the importer is confident enough in their feedback from the CFS and their own interpretation of the law that they put the money and time in to replace the compensator instead of pinning the stock permanently open to exceed the OAL minimum.

Unless the law changes, the muzzle devices should count towards the OAL for Renegade builds. The MRA Rock Solid Muzzle Brake would add 2.5 inches / 63.5 mm (minus the part that threads over the barrel) to the OAL, for example.

If the Renegade with a collapsed stock, a 10.5 " barrel, and a Rock Solid Muzzle device is just under the correct OAL, is creating a longer version of the brake reasonably possible for MRA, perhaps by duplicating another cavity and support ring?
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We will look into making longer muzzle devices for this.
 
Maple Ridge Armourer said:
We are providing a gas journal sleeve that will block the gas port.

Also, we are making Renegade barrels with a taper profile and no gas journal or gas port specific for straight pull rifles.
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I thought I read somewhere that you will be selling a .875 gas journal sleeves as well. If so, when will those be available?
And I hope you guys are gonna be making some of those Renegade barrels in .450 Bushmaster ;)
 
Cal45 said:
We may also need some MRA folding stock adapters lol :evil:
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I thought because of the spring assist you couldn't use a folding stock adapter with the Renegade? Or can it run as pure manual action firearm with no spring, like the competing manual action fire arm design?

Edit: Nevermind, I guess the LAW folder adapter will retain the spring when open, just not allowing the firearm to fire, and then can release the spring when the stock is closed and locked.
 
Cal45 said:
We may also need some MRA folding stock adapters lol :evil:
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YES please this would take care of all my concerns. I am actually trepidacious now understanding the involved break down just to access the BCG, what a PIA to take off the receiver extension every time you might want to check/clean your bolt/cam pin. So no to a fixed a stock? Please refresh my understanding, although there should be vids and pics of the breakdown, no buffer retaining pin right?
 
Suchee said:
YES please this would take care of all my concerns. I am actually trepidacious now understanding the involved break down just to access the BCG, what a PIA to take off the receiver extension every time you might want to check/clean your bolt/cam pin. So no to a fixed a stock? Please refresh my understanding, although there should be vids and pics of the breakdown, no buffer retaining pin right?
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It's one of those things that involve fear and trepidation the first time, along with discovering that you don't want to lose a couple of wee springs and how to capture them, but if you'd had the tail off an AR a few times before then it's a relatively routine operation.
 
It looks as though my recently purchased MRA V1 handguard will lose its anti rotation feature on the renegade receiver. That’s unfortunate. Are there any plans to address this in the future?
 
Suchee said:
YES please this would take care of all my concerns. I am actually trepidacious now understanding the involved break down just to access the BCG, what a PIA to take off the receiver extension every time you might want to check/clean your bolt/cam pin. So no to a fixed a stock? Please refresh my understanding, although there should be vids and pics of the breakdown, no buffer retaining pin right?
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It is honestly a 2 minute job at most to remove the stock and buffer tube....I wouldn't worry about it. Plenty of rifles out there that are far more involved.

I myself, plan on using a fixed stock for my build.

Good question about the retaining pin!
 
Ravage said:
Curious what the work around is going to be for AR barrels because of the gas port what is going to be the best / easiest fix for that ?
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Maple Ridge Armourer said:
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Included Components:
(1) MRA Renegade Receiver
(1) MRA Renegade Bottom Metal
(1) MRA Renegade Bolt Carrier (requires bolt, firing pin, camp in, and retaining pin)
(1) MRA Renegade Cylinder Charging Handle
(1) MRA Renegade End Plate
(1) MRA Rebegade Barrel Gas Journal Seal .750" diameter (allows the use of various aftermarket barrels with a gas port)
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Ravage said:
Curious what the work around is going to be for AR barrels because of the gas port what is going to be the best / easiest fix for that ?
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This has been addressed several times. MRA is supplying a sleeve to cover the port. Also, you could remove your gas block and put it back on the other way.
For the front sight block style, cut the gas tube and turn it over and then reinstall it so that the hole in the barrel is covered.
There are a few other possibilities, but I think you get the idea.
 
Ravage said:
Curious what the work around is going to be for AR barrels because of the gas port what is going to be the best / easiest fix for that ?
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This has been addresses in earlier posts in this thread.

If I recall correctly, MRA is looking at the possibility of a sleeve to block the barrel gas port for those who don't want an A2 front sight. Those of us who like the look of the A2 front sight and have current hand guards, they are suggesting the gas tube be removed from the gas block, cut it down to a few inches, rotate it 180 degrees so the port in the gas block is covered by the gas tube and reinsert it. More details to come I am sure.
 
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