MRADs or MOA's ???

A canted rail (10, 15, 20MOA and so forth) starts the scope pointed downward relative to the barrel. This forces you to raise the barrel higher to get on target than you would with a flat rail. That said, you will likely have to dial DOWN elevation to get on target at a short distance.

Having done so, you will have more UP elevation at your disposal when getting on target at the longer ranges. That's how a canted rail works to extend your zeroing ability within the total range of elevation provided by your scope.
 
Are you sure about that? Not many people in the world could hit 2.5" at 1000 with any sort of repetition.

The shop owns several sets of steel gongs. The largest is 10" diameter the mid size is 5" diameter and the smallest and most challenging is 2.5"diameter.
We (I say we as all of us at the shop) shoot these gongs regularly at distances of 1000 yards and beyond with everything from 308 win to 50 BMG.
The hit ratio on the 10" is very regular as it is not much of a challenge most days, the 5" is also really beat up but takes fewer hits that the 10", the 2.5" gets it's share of abuse as well but is much more challenging and will last the longest as a result.
On good days it takes a real pounding on the rest of the days it simply gets the hell scared out of it.:cool:

A well made rifle, great glass, some competence as a shooter and reloader, lots of practice and decent weather make this quite an attainable feat.
 
I switched over all of my optics to FFP MRAD a few years back and wish I did it sooner. For me it is just a simpler system to work with(mind you it took some getting used to from MOA). If you are worried about the "coarse" adjustments being .1 mil, there are scopes available in .05 mil(just as there are 1/8 minute scopes). I haven't found the .1 mil adjustments to be any issue but I only field shoot so competition may be a different story.
 
I switched over all of my optics to FFP MRAD a few years back and wish I did it sooner. For me it is just a simpler system to work with(mind you it took some getting used to from MOA). If you are worried about the "coarse" adjustments being .1 mil, there are scopes available in .05 mil(just as there are 1/8 minute scopes). I haven't found the .1 mil adjustments to be any issue but I only field shoot so competition may be a different story.

0.05 mils, interesting... I'd be interested in looking into those scopes. Could you point me in the direction of which scopes might be so equipped. Personally, I like SFP MRAD scopes, or at least the way Vortex does them, but that's my preference.
 
The MOA vs Mils debate is kind of silly. As long as your turrets match your reticle you are fine. MOA is slightly finer (small increments) than Mils, which you will notice the further out you shoot. Having said that, I’ve never been able to accurately adjust "1/4 MOA" at 1000 yds (which = 2.5") and notice a difference in POI. Wind and other factors play much larger roles out there.
 
0.05 mils, interesting... I'd be interested in looking into those scopes. Could you point me in the direction of which scopes might be so equipped. Personally, I like SFP MRAD scopes, or at least the way Vortex does them, but that's my preference.

Zeiss, March and Leopold are a few that come to mind but I'm sure there are more. Doesn't S&B make a higher power scope that is .05 mil, maybe a BR model?
 
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