MSAR Clear AR mags in stock

Doesn't seem to be the rivet. A mag with 5 rounds won't even seat at all with the bolt closed. When bolt is open it needs to be jammed. Its the same with all 6 mags I got.
I don't think these mags will be ending pmag monopoly in Canada anytime soon.
 
Yeah you would think a little common sense would work better than angst on the internet. I have Pmags that don't drop free either; so I was not too concerned when I noticed that with the ones I bought. If it warms up a bit I will take them out to the range and see how they feed.

I am thinking that a simple fix might involve a belt sander, and a re-rivet job to 5.5.
 
Yeah you would think a little common sense would work better than angst on the internet. I have Pmags that don't drop free either; so I was not too concerned when I noticed that with the ones I bought. If it warms up a bit I will take them out to the range and see how they feed.

Well now there's info out there for people to make a informed decision. Not everyone has the capability/time/interest to sand and re-rivet each mag. I have Pmags that don't drop free either, big deal. For me its about getting it seated in the gun.
 
Yes, I was speaking more to the mags not dropping free as I have not tried mine with live ammo yet. Supposed to start to warm up tomorrow so I will take an AR and all of the ones I bought out to the range for a test. The not dropping free is not a big deal for me either, but interested to see about the feeding issue. I will report back with my findings.....;););)


Well now there's info out there for people to make a informed decision. Not everyone has the capability/time/interest to sand and re-rivet each mag. I have Pmags that don't drop free either, big deal. For me its about getting it seated in the gun.
 
Yes, I was speaking more to the mags not dropping free as I have not tried mine with live ammo yet. Supposed to start to warm up tomorrow so I will take an AR and all of the ones I bought out to the range for a test. The not dropping free is not a big deal for me either, but interested to see about the feeding issue. I will report back with my findings.....;););)

Good luck! I hope they feed well
 
Best to look for mags that are pinned to 5.5 rounds.

Read that Canada Ammo has the 10 rounders pinned to 10.5 rounds. And Questars are pinned to 10 rounds.

I have D&H mags that will not seat on a closed bolt. So pinned to 5 rounds. Not 5.5 rounds.
fyi -
i have Questar LAR pistol mags from last year, they will go in on closed bolt (and more on order)
i have can ammo lar mags on order, so ill let you know how that goes
i have D&H mags...they will load on closed bolt. closer to being pinned at the 5.8 round point actually, and it is stamped on the mag "5 rounds only"

now with the LAR mags ive heard with the ranger plate i will only be able to load to 9 rounds and i dont want to sand the follower incase i switch to a joiner or go back to standard bases for whatever reason..i just dont want to end up with a 11 round mag thats prohibited.
ill see if i can sand the ranger plates to let the follower go down low enough to 10 rounds.

i was going to order the mags from dlask, but didnt.. if someone in gta is ordering and wants to sell me 1 or 2 mags let me know.
 
I sanded mine down and deepened the mag retention slot a tad. Now they drop out freely most of the time. It's a pity about being pinned at 5 versus 5.5. Maybe the importer was scared that some official would manage to squeeze 6 rounds in one and hence seize the whole shipment.

Has anyone noticed that the mag plates seem to be glued as well?
 
I sanded mine down and deepened the mag retention slot a tad. Now they drop out freely most of the time. It's a pity about being pinned at 5 versus 5.5. Maybe the importer was scared that some official would manage to squeeze 6 rounds in one and hence seize the whole shipment.

Has anyone noticed that the mag plates seem to be glued as well?

I think Ill try sanding my down.
My base plates appear to be glued aswell.

Edit: 30 mins later after standing I can get the mag to seat ok, still wont drop though.
 
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I sanded mine down and deepened the mag retention slot a tad. Now they drop out freely most of the time. It's a pity about being pinned at 5 versus 5.5. Maybe the importer was scared that some official would manage to squeeze 6 rounds in one and hence seize the whole shipment.

Has anyone noticed that the mag plates seem to be glued as well?

Yeah, that kind of ticks me off, how the hell is a guy supposed to clean out his magazine with the plates glued to the mag body? 4 out of my 10 mags will drop free, the other 6 do not drop free. I still have to get them out to the range and test them out soon. I love the way the translucent mags look, thanks dead zombies.
 
I received my order of 20 clear/amber MSAR 5/30 round magazines. *Edit* All of these mags are '09 manufacture, as others had indicated.

5 of the 20 will drop free when empty. 14 fit "snugly" and require varying degrees of force to seat and unseat them. One fits very tightly when loaded and requires a great deal of force to be removed. I test fit each of the mags both loaded and unloaded in 4 different AP lowers I have here at the moment.

Overall, the plastic appears to be a good solid tough space age material. However, for some retarded reason, all of the mag base plates have been glued. This bothers me as there is some junk from the rivet job inside the mag body I would like to clean out, and the logical path to do so has been blocked. The rivet job is very well done, but it is done so that the 5 rounds you can jam in the mag are pretty tight, and I can see some hangups on feeding the first round. They should have been pinned lower, but those that have these mags can see that the spot on the rib/spine is such that it was either likely too snug, or too loose because of the form change at the location it was riveted...

As these are the only game in town right now, and probably for a long while, I suppose they will have to do. Likely a bit of sanding will fix the fit issue of the snug fit.

PMAGS these aint, but these aren't the worst mags ever made either. Somewhere in between ;)
 
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Kinda what I was thinking. The main thing is if they work reliably. Then they are a good deal despite the necessary tweaks.
 
Yup. I'm going to reserve judgement until I fix a few of these sticky ones and see what it takes. Have to think about a way to get the base plate off as well, that really bugs me.
 
what I read about them in the states was that they had some molding issue and the mag bodies would be bulged enough that if you load it with 20-30 rounds, they would start falling off the follower. This might explain the tightness of some mags, but it wouldnt effect function since we only load 5 rounds anyway

From one of the previous MSAR staff:
Ill tell you what happened. Since I was the guy that worked on them.

The tool to make them was a single cavity with a pull core for the internal part of the mag. Now the pull core, for those that don't already know, is a sliding core that forms the inside of the part. In this case the pull core formed everything inside up until the feed lips. Because it is pulled out it has to have draft to it to allow it to come out easily. There was a big debate between myself, Tony and the toolmaker on how much draft should be put on this component. Both the toolmaker and I wanted to have as little as possible to keep the gaps small. Tony didn't believe this was possible.

I won, we put very little draft on the part (similar to the pmag). However, the toolmaker subcontracted this part out to another tool shop where it was made....very poorly. The surfaces were wavy (+ .004"ish) which meant that as the core was pulled, it expanded the mag itself. This expantion allowed the rounds to essentially fall off the follower. You will probably find videos of people loading their mags and take the top 2 out and then it stops feeding. Well that was the problem.

After some time I found the problem and had the original toolmaker fix it. This was around June/July 09. We tested them in numerous lowers. Dave was part of that actually. And we had no problems. The materials that go into the mag are very hot during the molding process and if the core and the tool itself is not properly maintained it would change shape. This is what I believe happened. After the fix, no precautions were made (read budget constraints) to coat the tool to prevent warping cores or cavities. That explains why for awhile we had good mags and then over time they became worse and exhibited functions of the original mags.
 
So they ship the old batch up to Canada? cause no one wants them down there..
Ive also got bits of something rattling around in my mags, really need to find a way to remove the base plate in-tacked
 
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