When I last talked to Phil, he told me the APV, "Might" stand the recoil of my 300WM, we both laughed, and agreed that my Mueller 3-10x44 Sport Dot™ was a better choice for the 300WM. The APV does fine on my 22-250 though. At the range this weekend, I got .450" 3 shots and .880" on 5 through the APV. The other rifle was consistantly at or under 1". I mounted both of them myself, have only got into guns about a year ago, so considering my budget and experience, I like to think they both work very well. Of course I've only owned Muellers so far, so who knows, maybe other scopes will tie your shoes for you too, but the Muellers have worked for me.