Muller chokes tubes

stubblejumper said:
The one thing that is different is the labeling. I found that in my gun , U1 is like IC, U2 like mod and U3 like full.
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This isn’t a mystery if you know the bore size.
 
And labeling on the choke does not always reflect what your actual pattern will be in your gun with your load.
 
BJP said:
And labeling on the choke does not always reflect what your actual pattern will be in your gun with your load.
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No it doesn't, and my own testing shows that my results don't agree with Muller's idea of what patterns his chokes produce. My gun and loads produce tighter patterns.
 
stubblejumper said:
No it doesn't, and my own testing shows that my results don't agree with Muller's idea of what patterns his chokes produce. My gun and loads produce tighter patterns.
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It’s those Kent shells you shoot.

I have always thought gun manufacturers should just label a choke with the amount of constriction, like some of the after market choke makers do and forget the labels based on a pattern percentage that is rarely achievable with said choke.
 
Westward1 said:
It’s those Kent shells you shoot.

I have always thought gun manufacturers should just label a choke with the amount of constriction, like some of the after market choke makers do and forget the labels based on a pattern percentage that is rarely achievable with said choke.
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Perazzi does just that but they are labeled in milimeters, they're marked 0 though 10. I like the concept.
 
stubblejumper said:
No it doesn't, and my own testing shows that my results don't agree with Muller's idea of what patterns his chokes produce. My gun and loads produce tighter patterns.
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It finally got warm enough for me to get out to the pattern board with the Muller tubes. My testing was very minimal, mostly I just wanted to see that the tubes put the shot where I wanted it to go more than anything else. One shot through each tube with one type of ammo, el cheapo Winchester super target #8 at 25 yards so the results are far from conclusive but generally I think they performed well. The patterns are well spread out with no hot spots and few flyers where they are not supposed to be! Not sure at this point if I'll bother to go back to the board, sometimes it's best to leave this stuff alone!
 
Falconflyer said:
It finally got warm enough for me to get out to the pattern board with the Muller tubes. My testing was very minimal, mostly I just wanted to see that the tubes put the shot where I wanted it to go more than anything else. One shot through each tube with one type of ammo, el cheapo Winchester super target #8 at 25 yards so the results are far from conclusive but generally I think they performed well. The patterns are well spread out with no hot spots and few flyers where they are not supposed to be! Not sure at this point if I'll bother to go back to the board, sometimes it's best to leave this stuff alone!
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Shoot some targets. If your breaks are good “leave this stuff alone” is a a good strategy. If you are the type that likes to mess around with patterning, knock yourself out. But the end goal for clay shooters is breaking targets and after a couple hundred or so, you should have a good idea of what your chokes are doing. POI testing is all I can be bothered with and even that can be cleared up in a hurry shooting the right target.

Sure hope this weather breaks. I would much rather be shooting than posting.
 
Great chokes in the dt11.. easy to clean and they stay tight. Using the stainless ones and find they are better than factory..
 
I'm very happy with my Muller's in my 725 Sporting. Easy to clean and they stay tight but don't bind in (can usually remove by hand as long as my hands are dry). Based on a moderate amount of patterning, my patterns look good and (the true test, IMHO) my breaks look great. Chokes look great too. I wouldn't come to the board and say outright that Muller's are some sort of voodoo that will increase your scores and improve your life, but...;)
 
I've heard other guys say that they think they are getting better breaks with Muller chokes. Muller claims that this is due to better patterns with less hot spots and like I said, in my very minimal and inconclusive testing there appears to be no hot spots in my patterns with the ammo I tried so maybe it's true. If the weather ever breaks and I get some slow time at work I'm dying to get to the range to see if all the hype is true!
 
I have a u1 u2 set in a 725 sporting that live there . If I don't break the target .it is not the chokes fault . The only cleaning they get is from the bore brush and swab . They just do not foul . I use BWCasey choke tube lube on all my chokes .
 
I've shot a few targets with the Mullers now and I can say that I'm happy with them. I'm not sure that they're a lot better than most chokes but maybe a bit, they certainly don't foul up or come lose so that's a plus but I'm in the habit of lubing my chokes with grease or heavy oil that prevents them from working lose anyway. They ain't magic though, you still have to do your part!

I long ago figure out that whatever gun I'm shooting, whatever chokes I'm using and whatever ammo I happen to have that particular day.... it's generally always my fault for a miss! :)
 
Most aftermarket choke manufactures fib with the constrictions. So a 10 thou IC is 9. There are also differences of how long a tapper to the actual choke dimension or how short. I have found that there are no miracle chokes compared to the factory Beretta Optima Bore Chokes or the Mercury in my Renato Gamba K13. You have to pattern the load.
 
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