Murray spring loaded sks firing pin. Ok, search function is not working for me. Any where in Canada sell these? Will Brownells ship these to Canada? Any comments on those who do or have had one? I remember reading back about these but cant seem to find these threads.
murray firing pins sks
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I think if your shooting military ammo they are not recommended. Stay with the issued firing pin. It is more designed for when using commercial ammo which have the softer primers. I think that is what I have read on the SKS forum. So, depends on what type of ammo you plan to use.
When I bought my SKS 3 weeks ago, I asked on here about getting a spring firing pin. I was told to get it by a couple, but not to bother by a lot more.
Since then, I have put a few hundred commercial rounds through it, and about 3/4 crate of surplus through it. I have yet to have a slamfire or anything out of the ordinary with either. I do make a point of cleaning it after each batch of surplus I put through it (so far, 3 seperate occasions). I don't clean it immediately after using commercial.
I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Since then, I have put a few hundred commercial rounds through it, and about 3/4 crate of surplus through it. I have yet to have a slamfire or anything out of the ordinary with either. I do make a point of cleaning it after each batch of surplus I put through it (so far, 3 seperate occasions). I don't clean it immediately after using commercial.
I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
haretrigger
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Like many others have said: You don't need a springed firing pin if your shooting surplus ammo... I learned the hard way, it caused more problems than it solved.
I have used surplus ammo, Norinco SP(steel cased) and S&B SP. I havent had any problems until last trip to range. I clean my rifle religiously. My firing pin moves freely and it was super clean and dry when it happened. This was using Norinco SP. First mag, ok, second mag, as soon as the bolt hit home, boom!! Ok, now I got through the next couple mags with loading it softly and controlling how fast the bolt slams home, no problem. So I try and let it go home on its own again and boom!! Same thing. Bust the gun apart, quick clean. No problems, pin is riding free and channel is free of obstructions. I am using an sks-d, cartridges being stripped from the mag. Not sure why it happens when I load it but not during firing. Now, does any one know where to find the pin in Canada? What are the specs on how far out the pin is suppose to protrude from bolt face?
Please share what problems the spring loaded pin "caused"? I am interested in getting one for my Norc but cannot seem to get a straight answer beyond "If it aint broke dont fix it" or "you don't need one" neither of which really answer anything.
haretrigger
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- Lower Mainland, BC
Initially I had problems with fail to fire's after the Murray's pin was installed, which I figured were caused by light primer strikes on Czech surplus 7.62x39mm. Then after I reinstalled the orginal russian non springed pin I had the same problem.
I never had any issues before the murray's pin was installed. I was trying to fix what wasn't broken. I bought into the "replace it or you'll have slam fires" mindset
(This was my first rifle, and was afraid that if my rifle slam fired at the range I would be banned from ever setting foot there again).The murrays pin somehow managed to deform the firing pin tunnel by creating a raise lip on the bolt face
After that problem was addressed I've had 0 FTF's in a crate +200 rounds of the same surplus ammo.
what is "slam fire". just got an sks and my brother told me the pin isn't 100% safe. why? does it matter what model...i have russian sks. But like most on here i shoot surplus rounds. kind of confused as to what i should do. i don't want to mess the gun up by fixing what isn't broken but i don't want to be banned from my club either.
Slam fire is when the firing pin tip protube from the bolt face because its jammed for somes reasons so when the bolt go foward and pick a round in the magazine, the firing pin tip can hit the primer and the round can go boom when the bolt close, leading to fire even if the trigger is not depressed. The earlier russian sks 1949 to 1951 have a pring loaded firing pin but that feature was juged unnecessary so was abandonned and replaced by a free floating firing pin. You should hear your firing pin rattle freely when you shake the bolt. You wont have problems if the pin move freely, before using your sks for the first time, remove all grease and dirt in the bolt, paying attetion to the firing pin channel, removing the pin for a good cleaning is recommended but a good wash with carb cleaner or break cleaner should do the job and after keep the bolt free of oil and grease particulary in cold weather. Of the fews SKS i have, the 2 i use have the free foating pin and i never had any issues with either surplus or commercials ammo even if commercial ammo have softer primers. Clean your gun and go shooting
I'm sure its not dangerous to install one but you gotta ask why the Ruskies took the spring out after a couple of years.I have no intention of ever using non surplus ammo so I'm going to go with 25 million odd SKS's that came without a spring. I will keep my firing pin clean and dry, no lube and see how it goes.
I've dealt with Murray a few times for my '56 Tula. Great service and he's included extra springs for me in case I need them. I've put probably 2000 rounds through my SKS and only had one slamfire. It prompted me to get the spring loaded pin. Make sure you get the correct one, as there are two types. One for '49-'51 or so, and one for othe later model that didn't have a spring from the arsenal.
They used harder primers, so a light tap from a wayward pin woudn't do anything. But on current commercial ammo, like used for hunting, the primers are softer, and occasionally do get fired from the pin floating like that. But if all you intend is to shoot surplus Combloc, you should not have issues.
Debo; When or if a slam fire situation happens,as already explained,it was because the firing pin was stuck/seized in it's forward position.From your question,"what is a slam fire". A slam fire essentially turns your semi auto to full auto,some times only 2-3 rounds,sometimes the whole magazine. If this were to ever happen to you, {It hasn't to me} that will be the only time you'll be glad that the FULL mag was only 5rds and not 10. Its not a big deal{you don't want to be the member of any club that would kick you out for that sort of thing anyway} but could be a hairy ride for a bit if you weren't expecting to go FULL AUTO though!...hope I helped, there is footage of sks slamfire on youtube
} but could be a hairy ride for a bit if you weren't expecting to go FULL AUTO though!...hope I helped, there is footage of sks slamfire on youtube
