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Some Canadian Forces units have museums,they do get weapons donated to them. I had asked a curator if I could make a donation to the museum for a working Lee Enfield. I was told that the rifles were registered to the museum and thus could not be sold or transfered to an individual. Does anybody know if this is the case or just bad info. Any usefull information is appreciated

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"...a working Lee Enfield..." Perfectly servicable Lee-Enfields are common. Most, if not all, CF museum pieces have been de-activated anyway.
 
the way it was explained to me was that as soon as the Museum gets it it becomes part of the Canadian military and is under the department of defense.(its been a long time so I might be a little fuzzy on this). Thats why museums prefer live firearms, or so I'm told.

The curator said that its pretty much impossible for them to sell them to civis. They either trade them with other museums or maybe destroy them(?) I know, I tried this as well when I worked at the military museum here, they had some nice stuff and not a lot of room (you pretty much had to use your body weight to close the gun locker door). mostly because Bubba gave them all their nice sporter Enfields! :confused: :puke:

sunray: Not true, in fact they prefer live rifles, they only deac if they want to display them where the public can touch/see closly. (we had 1 enfield for that purpose)
 
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TheWharGoul said:
the way it was explained to me was that as soon as the Museum gets it it becomes part of the Canadian military and is under the department of defense.(its been a long time so I might be a little fuzzy on this). Thats why museums prefer live firearms, or so I'm told.

The curator said that its pretty much impossible for them to sell them to civis. They either trade them with other museums or maybe destroy them(?) I know, I tried this as well when I worked at the military museum here, they had some nice stuff and not a lot of room (you pretty much had to use your body weight to close the gun locker door). mostly because Bubba gave them all their nice sporter Enfields! :confused: :puke:

sunray: Not true, in fact they prefer live rifles, they only deac if they want to display them where the public can touch/see closly. (we had 1 enfield for that purpose)
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After talking to the curator more, that is basically what he said, DND owns them. He said he uses them as you said for trades etc....
Now I understand, too bad a lot of nice Enfields there.

Thanks again
 
CF museum directives state that a museum will not alter it's firearms. That means no deactivations, although if the guns have been donated that way, then they are fine.

Most donations of artifacts, including guns, are given a tax receipt. This makes the items taxpayer property. Before they can be disposed of through sales, they must be put up for accession to any other museum in Canada that wants it.
 
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May not be possible now, but likely happened in some form in the past. I had a MKIII* RCAF that was at one time in a CF museum in Trenton. Fellow I got it from said he got it from the museum over 30 years ago as I recall. Thats the story I got anyway. Another CGN member owns it now. It was a common practice with the Canadian War Museum to sometimes "trade" firearms.
 
stencollector said:
CF museum directives state that a museum will not alter it's firearms. That means no deactivations, although if the guns have been donated that way, then they are fine.

Most donations of artifacts, including guns, are given a tax receipt. This makes the items taxpayer property. Before they can be disposed of through sales, they must be put up for accession to any other museum in Canada that wants it.
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That is only valid to CF owned museum.
I worked a bit of class A at the Black Watch museum in Mtl when I was in the MO and ww had to do stuff that was so disgusting :puke:

All the firearms collection were deactivated so they could be displayed...
plus, I had to engrave a serial number on the weapon that were to old to have one...

I know, it's a shame, but that was the only they could be displayed without incesting 50k $ in a alarm system
 
Hi Guy's
There is not mutch we can do with museum Wpns. When we receive them into stock they are on our MIU and become DND/CF wpns. We can trade with othe CF military museum's. Not all Military museum are CF MUSEUM'S
Cheers
 
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