Museum's inventory: F.N. CDN EX1

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Hi guys,

I tought some of you might be interested in this particular FN model that was used during the trials before the final version of the FN was adopted by the CF. If you have any more information about this rifle, feel free to share it on this thread and if the subject is going on something else, there is no problem. No one is stealing a thread if there is information sharing. I'm here to learn.

If you have any ideas of what is that grenade launcher, please tell me.

Here the pictures. Sorry for those blury ones...









































































 
Diopter, thank you very much for this link. You just gave me the answer to another question I had. I can identify another part I found in a miscellaneous parts box; the sight for cup discharger.

Thanks!!

Martin
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Does this trials rifle have the Stripper clip guides like the standard issue C1? From the pictures it doesn't look like it but I felt I would ask.
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You're right, it's impossible to use the stripper clips. Some of my pictures were very blurry so I deleted them. I'll try to take some more.

Martin
 
dauph197 said:
Right now, I do not know if we have the bolts. I can't have access to the bolts because they are stored in another location. In the next few months, I will have the answer as I should try to properly tag all the bolts.

Martin
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The Ex1 and Ex2 bolts and carriers are single angle similar to the Indian Ia1 bolt and carrier.

They are not compatible with the C1/L1/ G1 and later FALs.

Bolt and carriers can be replaced as a combined assembly.

One other quirk is the firing pin, similar to a FN49 in shape.

Of the dozen or so Ex1/Ex2 firing pins I've seen, I've only ever seen 1 which wasn't broken.
 
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Eaglelord17 said:
Does this trials rifle have the Stripper clip guides like the standard issue C1? From the pictures it doesn't look like it but I felt I would ask.
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No, the Ex1 and Ex2 did not have stripper clip guides. The Ex1 uses a standard metric top cover, the Ex2 uses a 1x "unit optic" sight.

The British equivalent trials rifle X8E1 was equipped with a stripper clip guide.

An early Israeli FN-FAL (with the wacky safety and forward assist charging handle) is (pretty much identical to) a British X8E1.

The American manufactured T48 trials rifles were equipped with the stripper clip guide top cover.

The Canadian C1 and Belgian M1 actually adopted the charger guide (or stripper clip) top cover.

I've always found it interesting that the country who actually trialed the stripper clip top cover did not adopt it, while 2 countries who didn't really test it adopted it.
 
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This rifle has the the very first modification of the FAL for semi-auto only fire. It consists simply of a taper pin installed in a hole drilled into the lower receiver to limit the travel of the selector. Later versions used different selector levers for select fire or semi-only.
 
Thanks all for the response, these are truly neat rifles. Now if I could only (legally) get my hands on one.

Also since we adapted the FN-FAL in 1955 when would we have been trialing the FN-FAL? Would these possibly been used in Korea to test the rifle?
 
[video]http://footage.framepool.com/en/shot/700396153-talus-canadian-soldier-nato-manoeuvre-military[/video]
Eaglelord17 said:
Thanks all for the response, these are truly neat rifles. Now if I could only (legally) get my hands on one.

Also since we adapted the FN-FAL in 1955 when would we have been trialing the FN-FAL? Would these possibly been used in Korea to test the rifle?
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Not sure about Korea ----- all of the pics I've seen from Canadians in Korea show they're still carrying LE. I DID find a video from 1959 (http://footage.framepool.com/en/shot/700396153-talus-canadian-soldier-nato-manoeuvre-military)

But this is well after the the FN was adopted. My thinking is that the 7.62 X 51 wasn't adopted by anyone until 1954 (after Korea) ---- this likely limited the possibility of the FN being trialed in Korea; simply on the idea that ammunition logistics would have made it difficult to supply in the field.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if the FN was distributed in very limited quantities as a support weapon ---- I can just imagine all of the "WTF!!!" at Kapyong if one of these bad boys were brought out!
 
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Eaglelord17 said:
Thanks all for the response, these are truly neat rifles. Now if I could only (legally) get my hands on one.

Also since we adapted the FN-FAL in 1955 when would we have been trialing the FN-FAL? Would these possibly been used in Korea to test the rifle?
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Canada was the first country to make a quantity order for the FAL, in june/july of 1953 we ordered 1000 Ex1 and 1000 Ex2 rifles.

The quantities were changed to IIRC 1700 Ex1 and 300 Ex2 rifles which were delivered and in Trials by about Feb/March 1954.



The chamber drawing was finalized in Dec 1953, when the UK and USA ordered their X8E1, X8E2 and T48 trials rifles.

The Ex1 type rifle was designated as the FAL-Canada and was the standard production rifle until the G1 order design changes in about 1957.

The first production C1 rifles were delivered in 1956.
 
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