Muzzle brake and velocity???
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Not enough that you'd be able to measure it.
The bigger question is: Is the recoil so bad that I need a brake and the noise problem to anyone beside me?
I have never shot a braked rifle without wearing my earmuffs, so don't know if a brake is a noise issue to the shooter. If it is, I would have to give that serious consideration before opting for the brake.
I have never shot a braked rifle without wearing my earmuffs, so don't know if a brake is a noise issue to the shooter. If it is, I would have to give that serious consideration before opting for the brake.
I shoot a lot at the Deer Lake R&G club,I'm usually the only one there. And I do some target shooting behind my house,by myself.
If you forget to put on your earmuffs,while using a brake, you're in for a ear ringing experience
.That's why I always wear hearing protection,while using a brake. Oh,it's not for recoil but more so,to stay on target,as I like to shoot fast.Thanks. That is very useful information. I, too, have a build underway with a light rifle similar in power to a 308, with a 19" barrel. I was considering a brake.
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Never used or saw the need for a muzzle brake, but I recently picked up a pre-owned 338 WM Ruger Hawkeye with one and with full on loads it is LOUD! Risk of permanently damaging my hearing by firing it without hearing protection. Or resort to using reduced loads to keep the blast level at a tolerable level. I really like the rifle (after I changed out the trigger) but hate the brake.
On my to-do list to take it off and get a thread protector fitting before I take it hunting.
) but hate the brake. On my to-do list to take it off and get a thread protector fitting before I take it hunting.
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This short video does an illustrative job of showing what gas does at the muzzle. This is for a pistol, so a rifle barrel would take longer to depressurize and have a faster, longer bullet, but the overall process is similar.
The muzzle brake takes the ring-shaped POOF of gas that vents out forward-ish when the barrel uncorks and instead vents it out side-ways (or even a bit backwards).
The momentum of that gas (which you'll notice is moving much faster than the bullet) produces a good part of the recoil impulse. By pointing half of it to each side (so that the two thrusts cancel out) you can significantly reduce the recoil impulse.
However, that POOF also makes almost all of the noise, meaning that a pressure wave that used to be pointed well away from you is now closer, and you need better PPE.
Since the POOF wasn't really going to play any part in what happens with the bullet after it leaves the barrel, nothing you do with it will make much difference to the flight of the projectile.
The muzzle brake takes the ring-shaped POOF of gas that vents out forward-ish when the barrel uncorks and instead vents it out side-ways (or even a bit backwards).
The momentum of that gas (which you'll notice is moving much faster than the bullet) produces a good part of the recoil impulse. By pointing half of it to each side (so that the two thrusts cancel out) you can significantly reduce the recoil impulse.
However, that POOF also makes almost all of the noise, meaning that a pressure wave that used to be pointed well away from you is now closer, and you need better PPE.
Since the POOF wasn't really going to play any part in what happens with the bullet after it leaves the barrel, nothing you do with it will make much difference to the flight of the projectile.
You are going to be wearing hearing protection anyways...... knowing that you shoot competition etc, I would go for the break...... good hearing protection will easily keep the noise to a minimum.....
Never used or saw the need for a muzzle brake, but I recently picked up a pre-owned 338 WM Ruger Hawkeye with one and with full on loads it is LOUD! Risk of permanently damaging my hearing by firing it without hearing protection. Or resort to using reduced loads to keep the blast level at a tolerable level. I really like the rifle (after I changed out the trigger
On my to-do list to take it off and get a thread protector fitting before I take it hunting.
I have the ruger guide gun version of that rifle..... the thread protector as well as a compemsator (piece the same size as the break without the ports) came factory with the rifle....... you should be able to source these parts from korth or snapshots......
If anything a muzzle brake would reduce velocity as the gas are directed away from line of travel.
Don't recall the brake on my 20" TRG 308 affecting velocity but it certainly makes a hell of a lot of noise plus blows anything near by all over.
Use the brake to see the shots hit. Wouldn't use it for just recoil management.
Don't use a brake on my 20" CTR 260, even at 100m usually don't see the shot.
Don't recall the brake on my 20" TRG 308 affecting velocity but it certainly makes a hell of a lot of noise plus blows anything near by all over.
Use the brake to see the shots hit. Wouldn't use it for just recoil management.
Don't use a brake on my 20" CTR 260, even at 100m usually don't see the shot.
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Thanks! I did not know that it's an OEM brake. Pretty simple fix then just to get the fittings off the shelf.
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A linear brake is supposed to be not as loud compared to other designs -
"...The linear muzzle brake is designed to direct muzzle gases down range. In doing this it creates three actions that are beneficial to the shooter..."
http://www.allengunworks.com/products.html
"...The linear muzzle brake is designed to direct muzzle gases down range. In doing this it creates three actions that are beneficial to the shooter..."
http://www.allengunworks.com/products.html
Who cares? Like the gun was quiet enough to shoot without hearing protection in the first place.
If it makes you a better shooter, go for it. Muzzle brakes, bar none, are the best recoil reducers on the market.
Just call it a flash hider when you are discussing guns with the brake haters.
If it makes you a better shooter, go for it. Muzzle brakes, bar none, are the best recoil reducers on the market.
Just call it a flash hider when you are discussing guns with the brake haters.
Depends on what brake youre using. I've used one and forgot to put on the muffs,my ears were ringing for 20 minutes. Where as I've used a diff one and it wasn't so bad.
But my question was more geared to velocity. Do you gain any back ?
I'll soon find out
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Had a look at the Ruger website and found the muzzle brake system which includes the brake, weight and thread protector. The fittings shown have flats for a wrench. The brake on my rifle doesn't have these so it might be an older system?? There is a 338 thread protector available but it's blued so I will have to contact Ruger to get the right fitting for my rifle.
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Who wears hearing protection when hunting?
