Muzzle-brake for Norinco YJ 12-1? (Remington 870?)

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The recoil on my Norinco YJ 12-1 is quite severe. As such, I am interested in purchasing a muzzle-brake for it. Are decent muzzle-brakes available? Have you used a YJ 12-1 with a muzzle-brake? How is the reduction in perceived recoil?

I forget where I read this, but my understanding is that the Norinco YJ 12-1 is actually a rip-off of the Remington 870. Is this true? At the moment I can't find any web pages dedicated to the YJ 12-1, but the one I have looks quite similar to pictures on the Internet of the Remington 870 -- aside from the folding stock on my gun. Will a muzzle-brake designed for the Remington 870 work with my gun?

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Perhaps a quality recoil pad might serve you better, to get started, or best of all, load your own shells and use buffer to lessen the recoil without losing performance compared to factory fodder.

Shotguns have low barrel pressure and linear gas flow considering the mass of the ejecta. It makes them safe and durable, and long lasting, but muzzle brakes on them operate at very low efficiency compared to a rifle. If you do decide to go that way, perhaps you can get more bang for your buck by getting a polychoke installed and having both the brake and the adjustable choke.
 
Do some online homework on the Knoxx spec ops recoil reducing stock. Yes, it is a rem 870 clone, most add-ons fit perfect. Here's mine with some add-ons, including knoxx.

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Dogbert said:
The recoil on my Norinco YJ 12-1 is quite severe.
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When you say severe, what is the problem? Hard on the shoulder, hitting your cheek hard, lots of muzzle flip? Something else?

I'm with Bobby, try a decent recoil pad first. A Limbsaver will take a nasty, vicous beast and tame it enough to fire 50+ rounds in a day at the range with no issues.

What are you shooting for ammo? For practice, get lighter target loads that are much lower recoil than full house magnums. I shot an Outlaw with 3-1/4 dram field loads and it was OK, but with 3" magnum slugs it hit way harder than a friend's 300WSM with heavy handloads. That was with the stock hard butt pad. A Limbsaver would have made the slugs manageable (not fun, but doable).

Mark
 
mmattockx said:
When you say severe, what is the problem? Hard on the shoulder, hitting your cheek hard, lots of muzzle flip? Something else?
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Well, it has been very hard on the shoulder and on the arms.

The first time I took it out, I didn't notice any problems; however, I only fired four shells (three #6 birdshot, one 000 buckshot).

The next time I used the gun was at my club doing trap shooting. After 25 shots I was really glad it was over, the gun made me really sore firing #7 1/2 birdshot.

Lastly, I fired three rifled slugs through the gun at my club's range. This was most strenuous.
 
Dogbert said:
The next time I used the gun was at my club doing trap shooting. After 25 shots I was really glad it was over, the gun made me really sore firing #7 1/2 birdshot.
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What can I say? You knowingly used the wrong tool for the job and wonder why it hurts?

Get a recoil pad with a bigger 'footprint' on your shoulder, with a nice soft rubber and you'll be good to go.
 
For trap shooting, you can shoot anything you want BUT there are reasons why trap guns are the way they are. Heavier - to soak up recoil and is also result of a robustly built gun which may see 100,000 shots fired. High comb - to plant your face solidly in the same position every time. Long barrels - for balance and inertia (plus they shoot 4 inches further). Recoil pads - big, soft, cushy, so that you can shoot 14 rounds or more in a day. Your gun, particularly, is lacking in each of those areas. Obviously your gun is more tuned to a combat shooting format, but the recoil pad is still woefully inadequate. Focus first on finding the biggest pad you can, and that'll go a long way to making it more enjoyable. Muzzle brakes/breaks on shotguns just aren't all that effective at reducing recoil. Stock fit, weight, action type, etc. all have more influence.

BTW, next time you're at the trap club, ask if you could try somebody's trap gun. You'll see what I mean.
 
I installed a Fabarm break on my Norinco HP9 - I can't notice any difference in recoil whatsoever, but I don't shoot shotguns all that often. Slugs and buckshot hurt before and they still do. As a side note, it was difficult to instal and does not 'fit' great, the barrel should have been a little thicker at the muzzle.

I too have heard great things about the SpecOps, but have not tried one out - the M4 style but was too "chopy" for my liking - but I keep revisiting the idea.
 
Don't forget the Mesa Tactical LEO stock with a Enidine recoil buffer. You can shoot slugs all day long. Baaad Assssss
 
Range report- Knoxx stock on 870 clone.

Ok- range report with Knoxx Spec ops recoil reducing stock (hereafter refered to as "knoxx"). Nice fit, snugged up pefectly. Single allan key bolt (included) was a little awkward because stock handle prevents full turn, and head of bolt is out of sight. After assembly there is no movement from components at all- solid! Four adjustments for length, same method as car15 stocks. Out to the range! I used winchester 2 3/4" rifled hollowpoint 1 oz slugs. ($16 for 15 at Canadian tire), and set up at 25m. BOOOM! Big heave and roar as I punched a 1.5" hole slightly low and left of bullseye. Lots of movement, but very little kick. In particular, your forehand moves with the actions recoil, but really just a heave at the stock. I'm only 150lbs, so I'm not exagerating to seem tough, I own lots of mean kickers (mauser in 30-06, jungle carbines, m44's) and this was fine. I proceeded to dump 30 rounds down range with no ill effects (the last 15 at 50m). A little odd feeling, but nice and easy. My range won't allow buckshot at targets so no go in that dept. yet, but word is almost no recoil! Two big thumbs up, and no sore shoulder, even the morning after.
 
I have the same Norinco as you, Dogbert, try Googling "Norinco 97-1" and you will get a few more hits...I know what you mean about heavy recoil, as I was pretty sore after a session with 3" one and a quarter ounce hollow point slugs. I like the folding stock for it's portability in the bush for camping and hiking, but I am going to buy a Knoxx stock for (slugs only) range sessions.
Other than that, I'm pleased with this 870P knockoff...Better value and effective range than the Dominion Arms Grizzly that a few of my buddies own, IMO!
 
Slip on "small" limbsaver, about $40

100 rounds and no bruising.... not sure if it would work on a folding stock though, works great on my regular stock though
 
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