Muzzle Brake on a Slug Gun?

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Has anyone ever put a muzzle brake on a slug gun? I'm toying with a savage bolt action slug gun and thinking a muzzle brake would be a hell of an advantage to accuracy with this gun. Is there anyone in ontario capable of doing it? Thanks....
 
I have a Mossberg ported rifled barrel on my remington 870 - my son's slug gun has no ports - I feel absolutely NO difference in recoil between the two if shooting the same sabot slugs out of each - but mine is loud as all hell compared to his. Slugs (sabot slugs) just plain kick....I'd be interested if something like the brake on the huge 50 cal. Steyr's would tame the slug guns.
 
My fabarm has a muzzle brake (factory threaded). It's hard to tell how much difference it makes. It maybe helps a tiny bit, but with 3" slugs I don't know if I could tell the difference. Albeit, I haven't done a lot of shooting without it, so it is difficult to compare.
 
You guys need to put a muzzle brake like this on...

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Is there any trouble with venting the barrel blast back with sabots? I read something a few years ago that some experimental sabots fired from the 50 BMG sniper rifles were venting back and injuring shooters/spotters.... And of course if there were a problem with the sabots I'd expect accuracy/consistancy to be poor...
 
I hate to rain on everyones parade, but this thread is total bulls**t. A rudimentary understanding of phsics tell us that a muzzle break does not affect recoil. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So this means that when your 300Gr slug (or whatever) moves forward with force, the sam eforce is being applied to you as recoil. The only difference is due to the mass of the gun and the design of the buttstock, the recoil (equal but opposite) is being distributed over a longer time, over a wider area so it is manageable.

Putting a muzzle break can only vent gas in another direction. Instead of comming out of the muzzle and coming out as a cone of hot gas, it may come out facing only the sides. My understanding of muzzle breaks was that they are for snipers who don't want to kick up too much dist when shooting from prone position as it would give away their position. Thus muzzle breaks venting to the sides and top with prevent the dust cloud of a normal muzzle. Also They can protect the crown of the muzzle from damage which effects accuracy. One fully known side effects of muzzle breaks is actually a negative. The redirection of hot gasses away from the front reflects the sound of the gunshot more towards the shooter. It is a great way to waste a couple of bucks and blow your hearing at the same time.

Really think about it, the recoil impulse is generated way before the slug ever reaches the muzzle, by then the recoil has started to move the gun back into the shoulder of the shooter. No device is going to re-write physics.

Breacher's muzzle breaks serve some purpose, that they help you hold the barrel exactly where you want it to be for breaching.

A good muzzle break design (most are not imho) also have the ability to reduce muzzle ise, but only if they direct the gas upwards only. But even here, most of the recoil that would cause a muzzle to rise has already been generated and transmitted to the gun, before the shot has cleared the muzzle, so it is limited in its help, but I find it reasonable that it may help some. This could help with follow up shots, but only minimally.

Beach: You are lying through your teeth. Hey I can understand you're trying to offload some junk to some newbies, but there is no need to lie. Some idiot will buy your junk just because it looks cool. Then you don't have to look liek a douche for lying to your buyer about impossible claims.
 
I hate to rain on everyones parade, but this thread is total bulls**t. A rudimentary understanding of phsics tell us that a muzzle break does not affect recoil. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So this means that when your 300Gr slug (or whatever) moves forward with force, the sam eforce is being applied to you as recoil. The only difference is due to the mass of the gun and the design of the buttstock, the recoil (equal but opposite) is being distributed over a longer time, over a wider area so it is manageable.

Putting a muzzle break can only vent gas in another direction. Instead of comming out of the muzzle and coming out as a cone of hot gas, it may come out facing only the sides. My understanding of muzzle breaks was that they are for snipers who don't want to kick up too much dist when shooting from prone position as it would give away their position. Thus muzzle breaks venting to the sides and top with prevent the dust cloud of a normal muzzle. Also They can protect the crown of the muzzle from damage which effects accuracy. One fully known side effects of muzzle breaks is actually a negative. The redirection of hot gasses away from the front reflects the sound of the gunshot more towards the shooter. It is a great way to waste a couple of bucks and blow your hearing at the same time.

Really think about it, the recoil impulse is generated way before the slug ever reaches the muzzle, by then the recoil has started to move the gun back into the shoulder of the shooter. No device is going to re-write physics.

Breacher's muzzle breaks serve some purpose, that they help you hold the barrel exactly where you want it to be for breaching.

A good muzzle break design (most are not imho) also have the ability to reduce muzzle ise, but only if they direct the gas upwards only. But even here, most of the recoil that would cause a muzzle to rise has already been generated and transmitted to the gun, before the shot has cleared the muzzle, so it is limited in its help, but I find it reasonable that it may help some. This could help with follow up shots, but only minimally.

Beach: You are lying through your teeth. Hey I can understand you're trying to offload some junk to some newbies, but there is no need to lie. Some idiot will buy your junk just because it looks cool. Then you don't have to look liek a douche for lying to your buyer about impossible claims.

Actually no, physics would prove otherwise, as the air in front of the bullet/slug/shot has mass as does the expanding gases created from the burning powder.

There is a law however that states: Matter cannot be created or destroyed. This is the "Law of conservation of mass and matter"

So, the recoil is created by the weight of the bullet being pushed away from you, as well as the weight of the air in front of the bullet being pushed away from you, as well as the weight of the expanding gases being pushed away from you.

If you vent some of that air, as well as some of those expanding gases, rearwards, you will have less recoil.
 
Although not on a shot gun, I have shot on the same day my 700 heavy barrel 308, and my buddies 700 308, with a muzzle brake and although his gun is much lighter the felt recoil was noticeably much less.

As for shotgun brakes, I was thinking the other day about mounting a brake to a screw in choke, so it could be installed on any gun or removed.

And your attack on beach is a little harsh.
 
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I hate to rain on everyones parade, but this thread is total bulls**t. A rudimentary understanding of phsics tell us that a muzzle break does not affect recoil. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So this means that when your 300Gr slug (or whatever) moves forward with force, the sam eforce is being applied to you as recoil. The only difference is due to the mass of the gun and the design of the buttstock, the recoil (equal but opposite) is being distributed over a longer time, over a wider area so it is manageable.

Putting a muzzle break can only vent gas in another direction. Instead of comming out of the muzzle and coming out as a cone of hot gas, it may come out facing only the sides. My understanding of muzzle breaks was that they are for snipers who don't want to kick up too much dist when shooting from prone position as it would give away their position. Thus muzzle breaks venting to the sides and top with prevent the dust cloud of a normal muzzle. Also They can protect the crown of the muzzle from damage which effects accuracy. One fully known side effects of muzzle breaks is actually a negative. The redirection of hot gasses away from the front reflects the sound of the gunshot more towards the shooter. It is a great way to waste a couple of bucks and blow your hearing at the same time.

Really think about it, the recoil impulse is generated way before the slug ever reaches the muzzle, by then the recoil has started to move the gun back into the shoulder of the shooter. No device is going to re-write physics.

Breacher's muzzle breaks serve some purpose, that they help you hold the barrel exactly where you want it to be for breaching.

A good muzzle break design (most are not imho) also have the ability to reduce muzzle ise, but only if they direct the gas upwards only. But even here, most of the recoil that would cause a muzzle to rise has already been generated and transmitted to the gun, before the shot has cleared the muzzle, so it is limited in its help, but I find it reasonable that it may help some. This could help with follow up shots, but only minimally.

Beach: You are lying through your teeth. Hey I can understand you're trying to offload some junk to some newbies, but there is no need to lie. Some idiot will buy your junk just because it looks cool. Then you don't have to look liek a douche for lying to your buyer about impossible claims.

Dear Mr Drvrage
Using this kind of language only serves to lessen your credibility. You should learn to write so that you can make an effect point without the personal and subjective attacks if indeed, your point is to inform.

That's my last 2 cents worth....
 
I didn't bother to read all of that ridiculous waste of time. Snipers using Muzzle Brakes to reduce visual signature:rolleyes:...... As far as felt recoil I don't believe there is enough gas pressure to make a noticeable difference in felt recoil. Kind of like how my ported and unported .40 barrels are indistinguishable while the difference between my 9x25 barrels is very noticeable.
 
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Just take a look at videos of how people can fire .50 BMG's with a muzzle break standing with ease, and then look at the video of people shooting the .577 t-rex with no muzzle break.

Theres a large difference in recoil.
 
Judas priest. Researching muzzle breaks now, I come across this paragraph in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake

In the European Union (EU), employees are protected by law against impulsive or impact noise exposure over 137 dB(A), with an absolute limit of 140 dB(A).[21] Individual member states often define even lower levels by national law; the United Kingdom, for instance, opted for 120 dB(A), which is where many references indicate that permanent ear damage occurs. The duration of exposure is likewise limited, for environmental noise above 90 dB(A) in the United States by OSHA rules, and for environmental noise above 80 dB(A) in the European Union, for exposure over an entire work day. The EU legislation demands the noise has to be reduced at the origin in the technically best possible way. Professional small arms and artillery users such as military and police personnel, etc., have to be issued with adequately working suppressors or hearing protection to reduce noise to levels as defined by law, since an employer has to anticipate legal action and compensations in cases where an employee that used the provided protective gear suffers work-induced health damage.

Sigh :(

Why are we forced to lose our hearing here again???
 
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