Muzzle Brake Question

I can't agree Tinn is 'hereditary' altho there are many causes like infections etc ( http s://microsoftstart.msn.com/en-ca/health/ask-professionals/in-expert-answers-on-tinnitus/in-tinnitus?questionid=ure02sjg&type=condition&source=bingmainline_conditionqna )

I've had Tinn since the 70s, partly from running factory wood-saws w/o pro and partly from shooting w/o pro. Esp my 357 and my .25 'pocket-gun' growing up in the States. Pistols were really fun but I regret the 'No-Pro' days.
Now I use e-muffs for the range AND in the woods. I can actually hear 'woodland sounds' better with e-magnification.
 
Not sure if this is a High Jack, :wave: but I gone shooting with friends that have suffered some pretty
major hearing loss and they take out their hearing aids then proceed with shooting.

Now what amazes me is that they say they're almost deaf.
Wouldn't it make cents to cover up and save what tinninitis one has left?
 
kamlooky said:
Not sure if this is a High Jack, :wave: but I gone shooting with friends that have suffered some pretty
major hearing loss and they take out their hearing aids then proceed with shooting.

Now what amazes me is that they say they're almost deaf.
Wouldn't it make cents to cover up and save what tinninitis one has left?
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Yikes. Guess they don't understand how the 'going deaf' process works...

I use and really like my brakes for spotting shots in the gopher patch, or doing a good long range session - but for me, its double coverage - foam plugs and muffs. The brakes do have a significant back blast, especially the APA Bastard series.
I got to the range once after a long hiatus - excited to shoot. Set everything up for load development session, and promptly sat down aimed, and shot a round out of my PRC with a Fbastard on - in all the excitement, I forgot to put my ear protection on - I tell ya, i had a headache and ringing for a long time afterwards...
 
chrismc said:
Yikes. Guess they don't understand how the 'going deaf' process works...

I use and really like my brakes for spotting shots in the gopher patch, or doing a good long range session - but for me, its double coverage - foam plugs and muffs. The brakes do have a significant back blast, especially the APA Bastard series.
I got to the range once after a long hiatus - excited to shoot. Set everything up for load development session, and promptly sat down aimed, and shot a round out of my PRC with a Fbastard on - in all the excitement, I forgot to put my ear protection on - I tell ya, i had a headache and ringing for a long time afterwards...
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Hearing loss is pretty permanent, and such an easy thing to protect yourself from when you know of any noise exposure that's about to occur that exceeds hearing safe thresholds.

Hunters are such a funny bunch. The aversion to hearing protection is incredible, when it's such an easy thing to do.

Personally, I value my hearing. Many others here do not.
 
I was always very careful to wear hearing protection at work, on motorcycles, mowing on the zero turn, and when running grinders, chainsaws etc. Target shooting, and waterfowl hunting as well, but I don't wear hearing protection when hunting big game, coyotes or upland birds. Being that I had hearing tests at work every two years, I know for certain what effect this has all had on my hearing, and that is, that I had normal to slightly above normal hearing right up until I retired, and no longer have regular hearing tests. If I find myself firing a braked rifle for someone, at the range, I wear double hearing protection, as neither plugs or muffs on their own are comfortable for me.
 
chrismc said:
Yikes. Guess they don't understand how the 'going deaf' process works...

I use and really like my brakes for spotting shots in the gopher patch, or doing a good long range session - but for me, its double coverage - foam plugs and muffs. The brakes do have a significant back blast, especially the APA Bastard series.
I got to the range once after a long hiatus - excited to shoot. Set everything up for load development session, and promptly sat down aimed, and shot a round out of my PRC with a Fbastard on - in all the excitement, I forgot to put my ear protection on - I tell ya, i had a headache and ringing for a long time afterwards...
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If only the Criminal Code did not prevent shooters from having to injure themselves. You must accept bodily harm by govt fiat. :(
 
Blastattack said:
I always wear hearing protection when shooting. There are no exceptions. Modern electronic ear protection enhances your hearing and protects it from loud noises, and they are not very expensive. Anyone who willingly shoots without protection is a fool in my eyes and deserves the damage caused by their inflated egos and/or pride.
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Guess I am a fool... out hunting in the open where sound does not reflect back toward you rifle shots are no big deal, with ot without a brake. However in a confined blind or in the range shack, you definitely NEED hearing protection.
 
The 2-3 boxes of centerfire I have shot while hunting probably did my ears no favor. But the hundreds of rounds at the range with no ear protection for sure did damage. And then there was shotguns. Add to that a couple of hundred face cords of firewood with an old chainsaw, motorcycle racing and 35 years in an electrical power station it is a wonder I can hear a bit with hearing aids.
PROTECT THOSE EARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill
 
kamlooky said:
Begs to ask..................... 22 rimfire ker-bang nuff to damage them ear hairs?
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Pistol (155 dB) - yes
Rifle (140 dB) - no

OSHA limit for hearing damage from impulse noise is 140 dB.

Impulse noise is not the same as constant noise.

Funnily enough it is the hairs in your ears that sustain the damage.
 
An unbraked 7 mag is at the upper end of what most people can shoot well, so there's a good chance that no brake is needed. Always a good idea to start smaller and work up when young, but you really won't know until he shoots the rifle a bit.

I'm a big fan of brakes on my target and comp rifles, but I'll never ever use one on a hunting rifle. I made the mistake once of getting distracted while sighting in a 20" 223 comp gun with a mild brake (VG6 gamma) at the farm. Got a call from dad just after I'd started shooting and forgot to drop my right earmuff back down when I resumed.
Took one shot and spent the next 10 minutes freaking TF out that I'd made myself deaf in my right ear. It was terrifying.
I double ear at the range (plugs under electronic muffs) just to make sure I never make that mistake again.
Things can happen fast while hunting, a trophy elk could stand up 75y in front of you, a bear could jump out and say hello, so unless you've found electronic hearing pro that you're happy to wear all day I'd avoid brakes on hunting rifles.
 
Ganderite said:
I tried 4 different screw on brakes on my 308. All opened the group.
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That doesn't say much for the quality of your barrel threading.

I installed hundreds of brakes over 50 years on hunting rifles. Non of them produced a decrease in accuracy, some increased accuracy. I had many repeat customers and their friends over the years.

All of them I lathe threaded to fit the brake and finished the crown.
 
guntech said:
That doesn't say much for the quality of your barrel threading.

I installed hundreds of brakes over 50 years on hunting rifles. Non of them produced a decrease in accuracy, some increased accuracy. I had many repeat customers and their friends over the years.

All of them I lathe threaded to fit the brake and finished the crown.
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Guntech supplied and installed the brake on my "Thumper" an 8mm Rem Mag. Accuracy was not affected in the least, and it tamed that rifle nicely. Dave.
 
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