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hey guys, I'm shooting a stock rem 700 ss in 7mm rem mag and i'm getting a fair bi of muzzle jump... enough to jump the rifle way off targer for follow up shots. When i look at video's online i notice that the shooters are getting almost no muzzle jump... I am aware that most of the videos i watch people are shooting 308's but i'm wondering what the cause could be. could it be the stock? or would it most likely be technique? what are your thoughts?
 
The stock has a lot to do with muzzle jump... all powerful center fire rifles will jump off the target, less when braked.
 
It's that big 7mm rem MAGNUM. The stock, the length of the barrel, and the weight of the rifle are all factors, but the biggest one is the cartridge you are shooting.
 
"...a stock rem 700 ss..." Which one?
Any 7mm Mag will do that. So will a .308. Isn't your technique though. Remember that it's a hunting rifle that isn't made for fast second shots. Mind you, the chances of you getting a second shot are slim, so quit worrying about it.
 
Your overall shooting position is likely a large culprit of the jump. If it is consistently to one specific direction,you may be applying too much pressure to an area of a stock. What position are you shooting from when the jump is occurring? The energy has to go somewhere and if your body is correctly inline with the rifle, the energy transfer will go evenly down your body and redeuce the muzzle jump. A little bit of detail in your experiences may help shed some light on the issue. Keep in mind, it will jump, but how much is dependant on fit, position and brake and weight.
 
Remember you're shooting a big magnum, if its a hunting rifle then you've got a lot of recoil force coming back at you. When shooting prone with my 20" hvy bbl .308 in a light hogue stock topped with a bushy 10x40 the forend would sometimes jump out of the front bag. With the new stock I'm working on (old walnut sporter stock) I've hollowed out the forend like a synthetic, layed up some fiberglass, poured in as much 7 1/2 lead shot as I could fit and covered it with fiberglass. I built the forend up like a 700P factory stock but with a flat bottom. The extra weight keeps it firmly planted in the front bag even with all the drop the stock has (more than the hogue). Once I redo the rear half, the reduced drop and extra weight along with much better ergos for prone should make it a dream to shoot.
 
It's a 7mm rem mag. I got rid of mine because I am new shooter and that is a ridiculous caliber to learn on. Go down to a .308 or brake that thing. Don't forget a lot of ppl who shoot 300 win mag have brakes and same with some .308's and honestly a 7mm rem mag is just as powerful a recoil as the 300 win mag.
 
to be honest I'm not sure what model of 700 ss it is... it's only 2 years old though. I'm not going down to a smaller calibre either, i like the 7mm rem mag, it's got a lot of kick but i like that, and i'm using it for hunting so i like the extra power it has! i suppose youre right about not usually needing a follow up shot, but i like to be smooth when i'm using it as a target rifle as well... the position i'm shooting from when i get the jump is from a bench, or from prone, i keep one hand on the rifel and the other one under the but to adjust elevation. i try to pull the butt into my shoulder with a bit of pressure, maybe 10 lbs. the foreend of the rifle is just sitting on a wooden rest usually, or on the bipod. i am planning on upgrading the stock at some point anyways so maybe that will help. I'll keep in mind to push back on the rifle and make sure not to be pushing it off the any one side.

any suggestions on good stocks?
 
Hey, did the 7mm become a hard kicker when I wasn't looking?:confused: You'd think someone would have told me or something.

Fact is, the Rem mag has basically the same recoil as the 30-06. That's enough to blur the view if you free recoil it, but if the shooter was to hold onto the forend, he can stop it dead in it's tracks. Modifying the prone position to be more in line with the rifle helps spot hits too, at least for some people.

The benchrest technique of crossed arms and no contact with the forend may be great for squeezing out small groups, but isn't the be-all and end-all for rapid second or multiple shots.
 
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