MVP Patrol .556

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Fun little rifle, currently have a TRS-25 on it. Thinking i 1-4 scope would be nice on it.
Comes with a 10 round mag pinned to 5, been using 10 round LAR mags with no issues.
Overall fit and finish is very nice, bolt is pretty slick.
Targets were 25m off hand.


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Very nice gun by the way, sounds perfect for sticking on a backpack. I just tought that semi's had to be pinned to 5 and that bolts were good to go over 5.
Denis
 
Nice looking gun, I was thinking about getting the .308 version as my all around hunting rifle. Silly how even bolt action rifles get caught up in the magazine law stupidity just because they use the same magazine as an assault rifle.
 
I think it's a neat looking little rifle. And yes, I like the flash hider on it.

How much did you pay for yours ? If they made them in .308, that would be cool to see a 7.62 PMAG sticking out of one.
 
That FH kills it though. I'd toss that ASAP.

I agree. Put a linear comp on it! It would look better, and if for any reason (oppertunity strikes while hunting) you have to shoot without ear-protection... It's Wayyyyy quieter for the shooter.

I think it's a neat looking little rifle. And yes, I like the flash hider on it.

How much did you pay for yours ? If they made them in .308, that would be cool to see a 7.62 PMAG sticking out of one.


They do make .308!
 
If Ruger made specific magazines for this rifle, technically they could make 30 round mags that are legal in Canada right?

Yes, that is correct. As clarified by RCMP Special Bulletin #72: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Magazine limitation is based on what the mag was made for, not what you may be using it in.

The trick, as you point out, is that it would have to be specifically stamped "Mossberg MVP bolt-action rifle". As there is no magazine capacity limitation for bolt-action rifles, in theory you could have a 200 round drum stamped "Mossberg MVP bolt-action rifle" and have it on an AR, and be completely within the law.

For whatever reason, though, Mossberg hasn't filled that niche, even though they could sell a million Mossberg MVP 30 round mags in 15 minutes here. Presumably (although this is completely speculation) someone in the government has likely approached them with "You better not...".

The best we can do is wait for someone to make a Beowolf .50 pistol.
 
Yes, that is correct. As clarified by RCMP Special Bulletin #72: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Magazine limitation is based on what the mag was made for, not what you may be using it in.

The trick, as you point out, is that it would have to be specifically stamped "Mossberg MVP bolt-action rifle". As there is no magazine capacity limitation for bolt-action rifles, in theory you could have a 200 round drum stamped "Mossberg MVP bolt-action rifle" and have it on an AR, and be completely within the law.

For whatever reason, though, Mossberg hasn't filled that niche, even though they could sell a million Mossberg MVP 30 round mags in 15 minutes here. Presumably (although this is completely speculation) someone in the government has likely approached them with "You better not...".

The best we can do is wait for someone to make a Beowolf .50 pistol.

No it isn't correct, as Mossberg has designed the gun to use AR magazines and has advertised the gun as such, it is limited to 5, as the magazines that are used in the gun are built and designed for semi auto rifles, or semi auto pistols. Hence, 5 and 10 round limits.

The gun was built and designed to use AR mags. Stamping "MVP Mag" on the side of a AR semi auto mag would have the same legal results as stamping "pistol mag" on the side of a pmag and then changing the capacity. You'd get a prohibited device. The MVP doesn't use its own purpose built mags by design. It uses AR rifle and pistol mags.

Beowulf Pistol Mags won't be approved until someone build a lower receiver that is a dedicated, designed on the drawing board Beowulf pistol receiver, and that purpose built receiver becomes available in Canada. Changing a Beowulf rifle into a pistol configuration will not mean you can start pumping out 10 round Beowulf mags for it. See the vz58 pistol ruling for verification of that.
 
No it isn't correct, as Mossberg has designed the gun to use AR magazines and has advertised the gun as such, it is limited to 5, as the magazines that are used in the gun are built and designed for semi auto rifles, or semi auto pistols. Hence, 5 and 10 round limits.

The gun was built and designed to use AR mags. Stamping "MVP Mag" on the side of a AR semi auto mag would have the same legal results as stamping "pistol mag" on the side of a pmag and then changing the capacity. You'd get a prohibited device. The MVP doesn't use its own purpose built mags by design. It uses AR rifle and pistol mags.

Beowulf Pistol Mags won't be approved until someone build a lower receiver that is a dedicated, designed on the drawing board Beowulf pistol receiver, and that purpose built receiver becomes available in Canada. Changing a Beowulf rifle into a pistol configuration will not mean you can start pumping out 10 round Beowulf mags for it. See the vz58 pistol ruling for verification of that.

...and after the AIA Magazine debacle who thinks that what the law says makes any difference to the RCMP and Canadian Firearms Centre. Any magazine for a manually operated rifle that that can be used in a semi-auto will be classed as "dual-use" and be capped at 10 rounds (even if the 10 round limit was for pistol magazines such as the LAR).
 
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I bought one from another vendor on here as soon as they were available (308 patrol). From the start of the transaction it was a fail. It was listed as a 7.62x39 which got me interested in the first place.

when I got it, I found that it is quite heavy for such a compact rifle. This is due to the stock being painted wood rather than synthetic which it was also advertised as. Anyways, the fit and finish is poor. When I say fit and finish, I mean everything from the painted stock, very notchy operation of the bolt, sloppy magazine lock up (P mags), to what I would consider one of the worst triggers I have ever handled.

If it was a 4-$500 rifle this might have been borderline acceptable but it isn't and I sold it before firing one round.

Here are My first thoughts regarding my new .223 patrol from wanstalls. I took it out yesterday and all in all a fairly accurate rifle out of the box. Fit and finish are ok but it does have one of the worst bolts I've seen. I think I'll take it to my gunsmith to see if anything can be done. Other than that it's definitely a fun lil shooter.
 
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