My 20+ new milsurps (56k warning)

"There's a stamp on the buttstock which has a circle with what looks like a flower vase or something, with MP 8 in the circle. "

Yes your rifle is a Spanish Civil War Veteran, the MP8 marking was applied when the Spanish rebuilt these non-standard spanish rifles after the Civil War.
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
Claven2, much appreciated! For the P14, shouldn't there be a screw to hold the nosecap on even if the swivel is removed?

I'm not touching any steel wool or anything, no worries ;) All I have been doing is degreasing them and scrubbing the bore with patches and a brush to see what kind of shape its in. I have the Mosin here and if you would like other pictures I'll see if I can borrow a friends camera next week.

As for the mauser, here's the top of the receiver:
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What kind of markings would it have if it was a Nazi rifle? I didn't see any eagles or swastikas stamped anywhere. As for its place of origin, I'm just going off what my friend told me.

Here's the brief list of what he gave me as he wrote it up.

7mm Spanish Mauser model 1895
7mm Spanish Mauser model 1895 carbine
Czech 98K Mauser
8mm model 1895 Steyr Mannlicher
8mm model 1895 Steyr Mannlicher carbine
.303 M10 Ross rifle
.30-06 Model 1903 Springfield
.303 P-14 American Enfield
.303 No 4 Savage Lee Enfield
Model 1889 Scmidt-Rabin Swiss
model 1911 Scmidt-Rabin Swiss
.303 Lee Enfield - not sure what this is exactly Says "Sht Lee 1916) on the trigger band, but the receiver is stamped FTR 1953
.303 Lee Enfield Mk 1 carbine
6.5mm Model 1891 Mannlicher (Italy)
6.5mm Model 1891 Mannlicher (Italy) carbine
6.5mm Model 1891 Mannlicher (Italy) carbine with fixed bayonet
8mm Lebel/Berthier (France)
8mm Lebel/Berthier (france) carbine
1937 Mosin Nagant
1916-made German Mauser
8mm model 88/90 Steyr-Mannlicher
8mm model 88/90 Steyr-Mannlicher carbine
.303 No 5 Lee Enfield
SVT-40

I'm confused about the springfield though, it's got a pistol grip stock but has the old style ladder sights. I had thought only the 1903A3s came with a pistol grip but had arpeture sights mounted to the receiver.

I'll pop over to milsurps.com, thanks for the info :)
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The 1903 is a WW2 era 1903, not a WW1 era gun. It can have a C-stock I think though I'm not much of an expert on Springfield rifles.

The K98k marked dou45 could be German or Czech, it depends on whether it was assembled before May 1945 or after. If there are no eagle/swastika stamps it's probably post-war, but barely ;)

Can we see pics of the 1916 German Mauser ? (actually it's a Gewehr 98).

Also, I'd LOVE to see pics of the spanish civil war Mosin. I didn't need to see the stock cartouche. The type of sling hangers and the year of production made it a high probability candidate as a SCW rifle... that and I've been looking for one lately ;)
 
Tyler said:
What would you restore the wood with if it was dark and oil/grease stained? Is there a wood restoration product out there that will take out the grease and leave the origianl finish in?
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The grease will only be on the surface. You just remove it. The finish is the oil in the wood of the stock.

One trick is to coat the stock in vaseline and then buff it off after sitting for a day. Then aply a new coat of oil to the wood (bolied linseed oil) to rejuvenate the finish.

Of course, not all milsurps are oil finished so you need to know what you're starting with before doing anything at all ;)
 
Claven2 said:
The 1903 is a WW2 era 1903, not a WW1 era gun. It can have a C-stock I think though I'm not much of an expert on Springfield rifles.
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I'll do some digging and see what I can find out about the stock configurations. My preliminary research consists of only Wikipedia, and we all know how reliable that is ;)

The K98k marked dou45 could be German or Czech, it depends on whether it was assembled before May 1945 or after. If there are no eagle/swastika stamps it's probably post-war, but barely ;)
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Next time I am home I'll take more detailed pictures and post them up :)

Can we see pics of the 1916 German Mauser ? (actually it's a Gewehr 98).
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I thought I had taken a picture of it but evidently did not. Again, next time I'm home I'll take lots :) The right half of the receiver markings are worn off though, looks like it was rubbed against something pretty good. I could just barely make out the '16' in '1916' unfortunately.

Also, I'd LOVE to see pics of the spanish civil war Mosin. I didn't need to see the stock cartouche. The type of sling hangers and the year of production made it a high probability candidate as a SCW rifle... that and I've been looking for one lately ;)
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I tried taking some pictures with my webcam but they didn't turn out. I'll have to borrow my friend's camera once he's back in town.

The bolt, receiver and mag all have different numbers :(

I was cleaning it yesterday, the bore doesn't seem to be too bad on it. The bolt has some surface rust on and around the handle - what kind of metal is it made out of? I was thinking of letting it soak in a tub of varsol for a few hours, as it's pretty covered in grease.

Any idea how to remove the sling hangers without damaging them? I wanted to remove the top handguard to check the condition of the bluing on the barrel but could not move the rear band far enough forward to take the wood off because of the hanger. From what I saw with my flashlight though, the bluing seems excellent :D

I really like how the mosin was built - the magazine mechanism seems well designed and built, the bolt is relatively easy to disassemble (from what I've seen). The sights are easy to use, and the rifle seems simple to take apart. I can see why you have an affinity for these rifles ;)
 
Yeah, you'll have to remove the hanger to disassemble the rifle, unfortunately.

I've never done it, but I think it can just be bent off and then bent back on later.

I'd probably be tempted to just let it be though... no need to remove that handguard.
 
Claven2 said:
Yeah, you'll have to remove the hanger to disassemble the rifle, unfortunately.

I've never done it, but I think it can just be bent off and then bent back on later.

I'd probably be tempted to just let it be though... no need to remove that handguard.
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I think I'll leave it be, it was pretty clean under the handguard already.
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
I'll do some digging and see what I can find out about the stock configurations. My preliminary research consists of only Wikipedia, and we all know how reliable that is ;)
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Your Springfield is technically a 1903A1. The only difference between this and a standard 1903 is the fitting of a type “C” stock. The fact that it was made by Remington pretty much guarantees it is a WWII contract rifle.
 
Calum said:
Looks like it is a Cavalry carbine...not worth much so you had better send it to me. :D

Could be Spanish, but most likely Swedish:
http://www.northcapepubs.com/swmauser.htm

Back in the day Cavalry, Navy, coastal fortifications, and artillery got them.
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i think spanish. AFAIK, the swedes did not have the sling ring on the bottom. they were inlet for a side mounted sling.

btw, i am jealous.
 
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