My 700VS with Falcon Merlin (Pics and thoughts)

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Well, I think I finally figured out how to post pics on this site so I guess it's time I show off one of my toys.

It is a 700VS in 22-250 with Falcon Merlin 4-14x42 scope (from CyberK) and TPS rings (from ### International).

I had a Burris FF II 3-9x40 on it previously. I'm no expert on optics or guns but FWIW my thoughts on the new scope is that it is a nice piece of glass. I would say about the same as my Burris. The power ring works fine and the side focus seems fairly good. Mike was a great guy to deal with and customer service is #1 !! I do notice that the windage adjustment feels gritty or sandy but I don't plan on using that much so it should be fine....if it fails I'm sure Mike will stand behind this product. Who knows, maybe it is supposed to feel that way? I havn't had a chance to shoot with the new scope much but I'm hoping to get out soon.

Joe at ### International is also great to deal with and I will certainly be buying from there again.

Perhaps one of the Remington guys on here can tell me if this is the HS stock or the Bell & Carlson? I heard that there were some 700VS made with Bell & Carlson?

And here it is.........
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I have the same rifle in .308. It is an HS Stock. It has the aluminum bedding block. How does it shoot. Have you put the scope through the paces yet. Crank it from stop to stop and see if it holds zero?? Four corners test?
 
Hey Barks, I havn't had a chance to do much "testing" of the scope yet.....believe it or not it has been raining quite frequently around here lately :eek: (I was expecting snow!)

As soon as I can get out I'll do the corners test, check the return to zero, etc and have more info.

I already know the rifle shoots great, here's a target shot at 100 yards off a bipod when it had the Burris FF II on top. ;) (lucky I think!)

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Well I got out to the pit today to fire a few rounds off. I don't really know if this is considered a "box" or "corners" test but here is what I did.
I fired one round at zero, went up 10 inches... fired one round, back to zero then 7.5 inches left... fired, back to zero and 10 inches down..fire, back to zero and 7.5 inches right...fired. Back to zero...fired, and did all this three times.
The scope seemed to hold the zero pretty well and I was actually amazed at the results. A lot of the reason for the groups is me not being patient with the shots but good results nontheless.
I again noticed the windage turret not as nice as the height turret but despite this feeling the scope seemed to hold the zero. I didn't actually count clicks but just used the numbers on the turrets, I assume this is fine?

One of the holes at the bottom is just outside the paper and two bullets went darn close to the same hole (both on the bottom and the right side groups). Overall I feel confident in dialing this scope up and down from now on.

Given that this is my first "tactical turret" scope, is this considered to be good results or should it be better?

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Are you or your rifle capable of shooting groups far tighter than this on a consistent basis with another brand of scope? If so, I wouldn't consider these results "amazing" as you put it. There doesn't appear to be a group here significantly under 1 MOA and that's for 3 rds. and not 5.
 
It's all factory ammo (winchester 55grain "greybox" ammo) the groups today and the groups posted earlier. Shot with bipod from back of pick-up truck.
 
Knowing the area and the place where you were shooting from today. It was a fair bit gusty today with the swirls in the wind down there, especially the breeze off the water. Thats a more the decent grouping, I'm also of the opinion that our 100 marker is actually a bit further....Not to mention using off the shelf ammo, where you can actually only buy one kind and God knows how old it is.....variety, quality and the time to do count specific loading is not really an option......the box of the truck isn't exactly a competitive shooting stage either.

A good shoot all in all buddy. Well Done!!

Cheers
 
2bad4u2 said:
Are you or your rifle capable of shooting groups far tighter than this on a consistent basis with another brand of scope? If so, I wouldn't consider these results "amazing" as you put it. There doesn't appear to be a group here significantly under 1 MOA and that's for 3 rds. and not 5.
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I think this will explain the groupings:

heiko said:
A lot of the reason for the groups is me not being patient with the shots but good results nontheless.
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Just had to add that in there before people start bashing the scope.

I think those are fine groups if the weather is as Napolean described it.
 
CyberK said:
I think this will explain the groupings:



Just had to add that in there before people start bashing the scope.

I think those are fine groups if the weather is as Napolean described it.
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Hmm...where did I begin to bash your scope? In fact, I was considering purchasing several of them in the near future.

I simply countered his claim that the results were "amazing", which they clearly are not. This is not a slam against Heiko or questioning the quality of the scope you are selling. I question the validity of the results and whether or not they are even relavent. You've supported my argument by posting the excuses provided by Heiko and Napolean.

Testing the scope under more ideal weather conditions and longer distances will provide more meaningful data. 100 yard groups on a windy day prove nothing regarding the merits of the scope. It DOES give the shooter an opportunity to learn how to shoot in the wind.
 
I agree that you weren't bashing the scope. I just wanted to clarify what had been written further up the thread so someone coming along and reading the last few posts wouldn't get the wrong idea. Just wanted to clarify things, that all. No offense meant to you.
 
CyberK said:
I agree that you weren't bashing the scope. I just wanted to clarify what had been written further up the thread so someone coming along and reading the last few posts wouldn't get the wrong idea. Just wanted to clarify things, that all. No offense meant to you.
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None taken...:)
 
Oh well Heiko. Not bad but I'm sure it would be better if you were locking it in a vise and just pulling the trigger. Maybe you could even stand back 8-10 feet and pull the trigger with a string.

Good shooting for s**t conditions along with Northern store ammo :dancingbanana:
 
Oh well.....I guess I'll have to pick up some match ammo when I head out on holidays and see what happens. (anybody got a suggestion on type and from where?)

Next time I promise to take my time when pulling the trigger.....and see what happens!

I just don't see the point in always shooting match ammo with a gun rested in sandbags or rests. I try to shoot paper in the same fashion I would shoot at the various animals I intend to hunt. With bipod, with regular ammo.

Just so everybody knows, I did fire three other rounds after shooting the posted target. Group was .85 MOA (as best I can measure) and about .5 MOA low of center point.

What does this mean....nothing I think.

Thanks for all the imput guys, it's always good reading on CGN and lots to learn. I certainly don't take offence to any comments, and welcome any advice people may want to post. I consider myself new to the game of "trying to put one tiny ragged hole in paper". :)
 
I wouldn't be discouraged by that shooting at all. If your main purpose is hunting with that gun, then that factory ammo will be fine. By the looks of those groups, anything you were shooting at would have definately gone down.
 
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