my brand new norinco tokarev!- new pics added.

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well my brand new Tok finally arrived this morning and now hopefully the ammo will show up soon so I can take this thing out and abuse it. So far I stripped it down and removed all the packing grease, then lightly oiled the slide rails and barrel and re-assembled. Very easy to detail strip this thing down for cleaning. A very simple design. Anyone know if you can polish up the trigger on these beasts? It pulls at an even 19 pounds before it breaks every time, according to my digital fishing scale. Might be tough to get used to when everything else I have is closer to 5 pounds. Other than that, the fit and finish is about what I expected for $179.00. Also, much to my delight, I was surprised to find TWO magazines in the box, and yes they match the serial number!! I will follow up with a range report and some more detailed pics and action shots when I get this thing to the range. Drool over these for now gnutZ.

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Looks good. You got it cheap, break out the dremmel on the trigger :D

Worst you'll get is burst or full auto ;)

-Jamie M.
 
not really sure why anybody would actually seek out a tokarev, especially a chinese remake of one, but... I'd be lying if I wasn't fascinated.

for a collection piece, awesome, looks like a lot of fun. I found the grip on those to be a bit short for my paws though.
 
logik1 said:
not really sure why anybody would actually seek out a tokarev

Simply because they are inexpensive and a hell of a lot of fun to shoot. And it's kinda funny to see people's faces when you bring it to a defensive pistol shoot for the first time
 
why i bought one? you asked.

because it represents the absolute bare minimum investment a man can make in his firearms collection. years from now it will be interesting to see how guns costing 10-13 times as much have managed to stand up.

and: cheap as hell to shoot. one step up from .22lr. i often take friends and family shooting, and constantly seem to be introducing new people to the sport. all at my own expense. this is a nice way to minimize costs and still have alot of fun myself.
 
Mine has a stiff trigger as well but not that stiff. It will probly lighten up after a crap load of dry firing. the trigger just pushes on a bar that actuates the sear and the heavy hammer spring is what causes the heavy trigger.
 
well i yanked the trigger right out and cleaned up the rest of the super grease and that seemed to help lighten it up a bit. once the ammo arrives i'll shoot some video so you can see the recoil. the ammo is supposed to be pretty hot, so i'm hopeing it bucks like an angry bull with a rope tied around his nuts. or whatever it is cowboys do to make those mofo's jump like that.

if the trigger is still horrendous after a 1000 rounds then i'll take it to the shop for a polishing.
 
it was the commie state blaster for USSR and China's police and military i believe. used in ww1 and ww2.

this version uses 7.62x25TT ammo. you can buy the 9mm version from Marstar for 20.00 dollars more. I wanted the original calibre though. you can just buy the 9mm barrel later and swap it out if you want, but i already own a 9mm.

i hope to have the ammo middle of next week, and then i'll post a full range report with pictures.
 
First version was the TT30, 1930, revised as the TT33. TT = Tula Tokarev. Chinese version Type 54, from 1954 adoption.
 
Well Gentlemen:

If I may add my comments. I am really impressed with this little gun considering the dollars spent. I got mine from Armco. It was a “switch barrel” package deal that came will 2 barrels, (7.62x25 & 9mm) and 3 (one 7.62*25 & two 9mm) mags. Cost me $200 shipped. I simply could not resist. Further, I gave Lever a call and ordered 3 more 9mm mags for $20 each (which I consider cheap for mags). I was really please with the 9mm mags as they share a lot of characteristics with Wilson Combat mags (ie: the “button” removable floor plate design), and seem to have very good springs.

I had Armco put the 9mm barrel in for me loaded up some test loads. This handgun is just a hoot to shoot!! Its really an adapted rip off.......um I mean copy of the 1911 design, and I am a really big fan of 1911's.

As for the grip being on the thin and smallish side, you are correct. However, if you want to get you wife/GF in to handgun shooting, its scaled down to fit their hands, and its easy on the pocket book to boot. LOL So here we have the best of both worlds!!

However, the moral of the story, is to be careful when inserting mags. If you have lager hands, its really easy to pinch yourself aka mag bite.

I’m an avid shotgun shooter as well, so I had some 700x lying around (I usually order it in 12lb increments) and I found that of the two powders I used, it was the most accurate.

Anyway you slice it, this is a great value for the dollar. Just remember, this is a $200 gun, and accuracy will not be on par with a $1,300 colt series 80, That being said, I would not hesitate to take it to an IDPA style shoot with some practice, as it is more than capable of shooting “minute-of-Badguy Torso” at typical handgun ranges.

One word of caution regarding trigger pull. I would be inclined to leave it alone. I do not understand all the details, however when I chatted with Gunner @ Armco about it, it you lighten the trigger pull (ie cut a coil off), you will need to get a heavier recoil spring, as it is the trigger mechanism in conjunction with the recoil spring system that controls the movement of the slide under recoil.

Just something to think about

Regards and all the best

R
 
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I think you guys have the right idea - it's a budget blaster. The 7.62 round will not disappoint - it's a little Magnum - the empties fly a mile and people look around to see what you're shooting. Most of the ammo on the market is Czech corrosive, so make sure you clean thoroughly. Also, I found out that some rounds are so hot they can seize the action up - no damage to anything, but a gunsmith helped me get the "brass" out. Have fun. When I'm through with all my 7.62 ammo, I might put mine on the market, so keep an eye open in the Exchange forum in a few months...
 
If you dis-assemble the trigger mech, you can polish up the sear and hooks on the hammer. It is a copy of the 1911 design so it is a very similar job, but don't mess with springs, they are designed for the heavy loads.
 
i have shot 2 norinco tokarev and i found them inaccurate!

with the first one, i could not even shot within an A4 paper from, say 10-15 feets away! moreover, the safety almost always 'auto-switched' to 'ON' after firing a few rounds.

with the second one, even though i could shoot within an A4 paper from the same distance, there didn't seem to be any grouping...

is there any norinco tokarev out there with acceptable accuracy? or it is just me? :redface:
 
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