My CZ SP-01 Shadow...DRY FIRING???

[lineofsight]

Also I'm a machinist for aircraft engines so I work with high quality aluminum, magnesium, titanium etc..And from my knowledge they would all have a dent in them after being hit from a firing pin..

The aluminium snap caps arent aluminium where the firing pin strikes, rather its a material with a bit of give that absorbs the impact (decelerates the pin on behalf of the action like a primer would).

Can make your own too - reload a case without powder & primer and put some silicone in the primer pocket. Nice thing about these is can mix in with life rounds at the range and surprise with a FTF - see what you do when you pull the trigger (or get buddy to load your mags and insert snap cap along the way).

 

[superbikejohn]

Thanks for the response guy's..I will dry fire this baby till its nice and smooth..

 

[Can-down]

Using the dented snap cap that CZ provided with your gun will not damage your firing pin.
The way I look at it is even with the dent the rubber is a backstop for the pin and is softer then no backstop...
I'm just curious as to why you think the snap cap is worse then an empty chamber?
I agree with others that dry firing will not ruin your gun but I just feel that if you've got a snap cap that was provided by the manufacturer for dry fire practice....why not use it?

 

[BCRider]

...... Nice thing about these is can mix in with life rounds at the range and surprise with a FTF - see what you do when you pull the trigger (or get buddy to load your mags and insert snap cap along the way).

That would be an excellent drill. Only one issue. The modified blank would need to be fitted with a bullet so it slides up the ramp, right?

A snap cap bullet made from Delrin or similar that slides into and crimps into a drilled out casing would also be a sweet option as the plastic would provide a soft landing for the firing pin. And having a regular case around it means it could be ejected time after time without wear. And being white nosed it would be safe from being confused with regular rounds.

 

[ian_in_vic]

The best place for snap caps is ON the range, mixed with live rounds in magazines. At home, there's no real advantage - pin goes forward, pin gets retracted by spring.

 

[af_newbie]

No, firing that particular model of weapon will totally destroy the action.

Kadet maybe. I got blisters on both index finders from dry firing regular CZ-SP01 and CZ-SP01 Shadow.

Actually, dry firing makes the trigger pull smoother on CZs.
Shadow has a light, smooth trigger to begin with so you might
not see much improvement but take a regular SP-01 and dry fire
3000 times and you'll see that the trigger pull improves.

 

[BCRider]

One little hint I saw in a couple of places and that the range guys told me about my new Shadow. From the cocked position push forward on the hammer with about 10 lbs of force and then pull the trigger. Doing that 30 to 40 times really smoothened my SA feel fast.

The DA pull IS getting better from the first 1000 rounds through it along with perhaps 100 dry firings but it's got a long way to go. Eventually I'd like to get a polishing job done on the innards to aid the DA pull but the SA pull is just fine as is on the SHadow.

 

[rdgietz]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth... I have been involved with IPSC as are many of the other posters.. and we dry fire our guns many times a night at practise to the command... " If gun is clear... hammer down and holster" So Practise away my friend... It does no harm

 

[relliott]

One little hint I saw in a couple of places and that the range guys told me about my new Shadow. From the cocked position push forward on the hammer with about 10 lbs of force and then pull the trigger. Doing that 30 to 40 times really smoothened my SA feel fast.

It's called boosting the hammer, and the best way to do it is by using a screwdriver to gently pry the hammer as you pull the trigger. This increases the pressure of the hammer hooks against the sear and net effect of this is to mate the two surfaces together a little more quickly.

 

[PaveHammer]

I think it's funny that you guys think Oleg is serious, and have ignored him for it.

He was having fun with the FNG because it's easy.

Brad

 

[Dan-O-Mite]

Another possible option to snap caps is a rubber washer cut down to fit in between the hammer and the firing pin. I thinned one down to about 1/16" and it works great. Just don't forget to remove it after. It sucks to get to the first stage and your gun doesn't go bang,

Mind you, I have a CZ Tactical Sport, I'm not familiar with your gun. Does it have one of those internal hammers?

 

[lineofsight]

Another possible option to snap caps is a rubber washer cut down to fit in between the hammer and the firing pin. I thinned one down to about 1/16" and it works great.

Good thinking.

 

[bladerogers]

Another possible option to snap caps is a rubber washer cut down to fit in between the hammer and the firing pin. I thinned one down to about 1/16" and it works great. Just don't forget to remove it after. It sucks to get to the first stage and your gun doesn't go bang,

Mind you, I have a CZ Tactical Sport, I'm not familiar with your gun. Does it have one of those internal hammers?

Nope, same setup. External hammer as well but the TS is single action.

 

[22ivan]

http://ww w.cz-usa.com/media_releases.php?m=4&msgid=37

min 4000 dry firings
NATO requirement for P 01.

 

[cybershooters]

Dry-firing any gun can break the firing pin, it's a mechanical device and using it wears it out.

However imx you only need to worry if you have a gun with a goofy firing pin that has a cutout in it for a firing pin safety, the SIG-Sauers with the stainless slides being the main example I can think of.

Now I'm sure I'm going to get loads of responses from people saying they've dry-fired their SIG-Sauers until they broke their fingers without trouble. Good for you, I've broken several firing pins in them.

The one gun I had where I endlessly broke the firing pin was a Beretta 92F, but that had to do with dry-firing it a lot.

I've certainly broken a lot of CZs and copies of them over the years. The one that was really goofy was the JSL Spitfire, track down one of those and break it, I dare you.

It's like hunting the big five in Africa.

I've broken the firing pin and/or slide stop pin on all of the following types of CZ:

CZ-75 (an original one, not the B model, in fact I broke the slide stop pin three times);
Tanfoglio (I've lost track frankly);
Sphinx AT-2000 (the slide stop pin has an insert, so those don't break but I bust the firing pin);
JSL Spitfire (yes, I broke one, find someone who even shot one);
IMI Jericho (which thankfully wasn't mine, it was a dealer demo gun);
And then there are the enormous number of Tanfoglio parts guns (which includes the Jericho), such as the EAA Witness, Springfield Armory P9, etc.

Haven't bust an Armalite AR-24 yet though.

The moral of this story is; if you are worried about breaking your gun, invest in spare parts... firing pins don't cost much. If you can't get spare parts for your gun, then your gun has now become a collector's item.