My first 100 yard groups

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hey guys so I got out today to shoot some 100 yard groups for my first time ever just getting into the target shooting, I've always hunted but never just put some rounds down the barrel for fun and am hooked on it now after watching so many videos and seeing peoples custom rifles , I have a savage 111 la .270 that I will be making into a budget rifle to start off on.

it wasn't at a range it was at out back of my place in a gravel pit and I didn't have a range finder I just stepped out the 100 yards so its give or take a few feet, I was shooting off a back pack and my small hunting bag that I keep my knifes in was used for the butt stock rest laying in the snow so it wasn't ideal setup by any means lol. Weapon of choice is my Remington 700 varmint sf 22.250 gun is totally stock barrel is not free floated and it is not bedded my gf bought me it for a Christmas gift, I added s and j picatinny rail, trijicon rings and a Leupold vx3 3.5x10x40, also a 11-25" harris bipod this is my coyote gun picatinny rail had to be bedded huge gap at the back when I went to mount it I will upgrade that later along with a new stock free floated and bedded.

anyways here's some pictures I have no idea if the groups are within moa or not I didn't look into how to measure that yet but you guys can be the judge...don't be hard on me it was my first time out! and I pulled a few times lol trigger hasn't been adjusted and is way to heavy that will be upgraded as well or adjusted as light as possible . I was shooting Winchester varmint and predator 55gr soft points for the first 2 target pictures , gun was not totally sighted in on first group I readjusted on the second , then when I switched to the nosler varmageddon's they shot higher then the Winchester so I had to make another adjustment..

here's a few pics of the gun...don't mind the balled up blankets lol





here is the 4 groups

first group with win 55 grs

second group with win 55 grs, best one of the 4

nosler varmageddons I think I pulled the last shot but that's how high they were over the Winchesters

last group with noslers was way off I was shooting a lot faster first shot went directed in the orange line where I was aiming next 2 I tried shooting a bit to fast!


over all pretty happy with the way it went for my first time actually trying to shoot groups and untouched gun!

thanks for reading any tips would be great...I plan for some hornaday 55gr vmax in the future
 
Hey guys thanks, I don't reload yet but that is coming as well. I switched ammo because I figured the noslers would be better and I was out of the Winchester , winchesters were 23 dollars for the box noslers were 34.99 plus tax reloading is looking to be in my near future !
 
It's fun to get those first ####s done isn't it??

Couple of things -

1) start printing your own targets, find one you like on the net and print 'em by the hundreds at Staples. I made one up in Visio with 6 3X3 squares with a 1" grid background. Much easier to see how close/far when you have the grid.

2) nice group for the 2nd, but the noslers weren't that bad, just the poi was higher, probably from a hotter charge. It sounds a little funny, but when you're starting out and then doing load development with different rounds, you're not necessarily trying to hit exactly what you're aiming at, you looking for consistency in POI, which could be off from your POA due to load characteristics. Once you get a good load you like, then zero the scope and you'll hit the spot consistently (hopefully).

3) eventually someone will chime in with the "3 shot groups aren't groups, you have to shoot 5 shot groups" BS. I'd predict it'll be within 24 hours. Ignore them and just enjoy what you're doing. Have fun, track your progress. Keep records of what you were shooting and good/bad/ugly results.

4) If you don't have a decent set of digital calipers - get one (crappy tire sells one for around 20 bucks). Nobody ever believes your group size unless you take a picture with the caliper showing the read out ;)
 
Hey thanks for the tips , I figured the nosler was a faster round that's why it was hitting higher... I will find some targets those are just some I had laying around so ill use them up , and I shot 3 hole groups because I only have one box of ammo left so I had to space it out so I shot 6 of the Winchester I had left and 6 out of my new box of noslers ill do 5 shot groups next ! See what I can do

I may float the barrel and even bed it to see If it will make it any better , don't have the funds for a new stock ATM , pmed a guy about a used reloading kit as well
 
went out today and shot a couple more targets first 3 shots

second 3 shot group


gonna float the barrel this week and maybe bed it and see how she shoots then!
 
It's fun to get those first ####s done isn't it??

Couple of things -

1) start printing your own targets, find one you like on the net and print 'em by the hundreds at Staples. I made one up in Visio with 6 3X3 squares with a 1" grid background. Much easier to see how close/far when you have the grid.

2) nice group for the 2nd, but the noslers weren't that bad, just the poi was higher, probably from a hotter charge. It sounds a little funny, but when you're starting out and then doing load development with different rounds, you're not necessarily trying to hit exactly what you're aiming at, you looking for consistency in POI, which could be off from your POA due to load characteristics. Once you get a good load you like, then zero the scope and you'll hit the spot consistently (hopefully).

3) eventually someone will chime in with the "3 shot groups aren't groups, you have to shoot 5 shot groups" BS. I'd predict it'll be within 24 hours. Ignore them and just enjoy what you're doing. Have fun, track your progress. Keep records of what you were shooting and good/bad/ugly results.

4) If you don't have a decent set of digital calipers - get one (crappy tire sells one for around 20 bucks). Nobody ever believes your group size unless you take a picture with the caliper showing the read out ;)

DING DING DING

That will be me. Yes, you should shoot 5 shot groups. More if you want to get anal about it. When you shoot 3 shot groups, there is simply too high a chance that all three shots will simply go where you want them too. If you want to improve, you need to eliminate that. You need to know that the group you just shot was determined by your skill and your rifle, and not by shear luck. The more shots you put in a group, the better you'll measure this. Granted there are practical limits espesially when doing load development, but 5 shots seems to work well.
 
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