My First .22 LR Bolt Action - Ruger American Rimfire vs Savage Mk II BRJ (Or Other)?

22 lr,

Skennedy,

Just my 2 cents worth.
39 years ago on my 16 birthday, I finally got a Brno now called a CZ. Over the years and maybe 10k in rounds, all I can say is WOW. I can still get a group at 100m of 1 1/2". Now with a weight scale and better ammo, the aim is sub MOA. The only issue I have had is the 10 round mag. gave up. I have used the new polymer units and again WOW. I know they will not last but at what point should you reinvest in your gear.

Good luck with your choice.
 
Cz hands down. Build quality makes them feel like they are made from something other then tin cans. Accuracy is excellent, fit and finish very good. You will not find a new rifle that is better put together in that price bracket. I can't say anything negative about the ones I have.
I have owned a bunch of salvage rimfires. After I got my first cz away they went no looking back no regret.
 
Wow! I was not expecting this many replies.

Obviously there are a lot of CZ fans out there. Craftsmanship means a lot to me, and I also don't mind a heavier rifle. Based on your suggestions I'm going to seriously look into the CZ455 Lux. In fact, I think it's made it's way to the top of my list. As always though, the final decision will be made when I hold it. But from the sounds of it I won't be disappointed.

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And no offence, but why do you need a "mountain rifle" for PEI?
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It was mostly a figure of speech, you don't need to live on a mountain to make use of a good sturdy gun. I do currently live on PEI but am moving to BC in 10 days. That is where this rifle will be bought and used.
 
A mountain rifle is a "good sturdy gun"? I think in most peoples minds it means a lightweight, flat shootingcenterfire rifle/optics package.


The CZ's feel more like a "real gun" than any rimfire I've shot/shouldered.
 
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A mountain rifle is a "good sturdy gun"? I think in most peoples minds it means a lightweight, flat shootingcenterfire rifle/optics package.


The CZ's feel more like a "real gun" than any rimfire I've shot/shouldered.
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What exactly is your question?

I think that most people understood what I meant in my OP.
 
Since reading all of your replies and seeing that the CZ comes highly recommended from the majority of you, I've gone into various gun shops to hold the rifle, compare it to the others I listed in the OP, and ask what the dealers think of them in comparison to the CZ.

Basically what I keep hearing is "The CZ is the best rifle out of the lot, but good luck finding parts for it." Various dealers have said that if something important breaks, I may as well trash the gun because CZ customer support is practically non-existent in Canada, and nobody carries replacement parts for them. They then go on to tell me that while CZ is a better rifle than other .22's, due to the unavailability of replacement parts, I'd be smarter to go with something like a Savage, which is still a very solid contender, and has lots of aftermarket and replacement parts available for it.

I'm conflicted.

I love the CZ, but if there is any truth in what these dealers are saying, it sounds like a deal breaker and I would probably be better off with something else.

Can any of you who own a CZ give me your opinion on this? I'm not sure if this is just the inaccurate, biased opinion of a few dealers or if it's actually true.

If it's untrue, where do you get your parts from? Because apparently none of the local gun stores i've visited (Nanaimo, Vancouver Island) sell CZ parts.

Thanks again.
 
You will need lots of replacement parts for your "mountain rifle" who knows what could happen to it while you are goat hunting in the Saanich peninsula.

Its like you made a thread asking if you should get a kia or civic as your "hunting truck" and now you are worried about getting parts for a bmw...
 
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CZ.
I recently got a 455 lux and I love it. It comes up to the shoulder perfect and the sight picture is great.
Also, there are still a few 452's around, and they are wonderful guns. I actually prefer the tangent rear sight on the 452.
I also have a Ruger 77/22, but it's scoped. I think they are available with irons. It's a great gun too, but they seem a little hard to come by these days.
 
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You can get CZ parts in Canada you just need to know where to look. Yo-Dave makes a trigger kit that is worth the 15$ or what ever the price is now. Dlask Arms sells some CZ parts they are great guys to deal with. You can post ISO adds in the EE and get some good results for pats as well. That being said it a CZ you won't need any spare parts just buy it, shoot it and enjoy.

Ps Dlask Arms is on the coast give them a phone call and check them out well worth the visit. Don't stay to long or you will end up with a 10/22 all tricked out.
 
Lots of mountains where I live on van isle haha but check out granlunds in Campbell river great guy and very knowledgable
 
conor_90 said:
You will need lots of replacement parts for your "mountain rifle" who knows what could happen to it while you are goat hunting in the Saanich peninsula.

Its like you made a thread asking if you should get a kia or civic as your "hunting truck" and now you are worried about getting parts for a bmw...
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Again I ask, what exactly is the point you're trying to make or the question you're trying to ask? I would appreciate a real answer rather than smart remarks.

I made a thread inquiring about a reliable, durable, accurate gun for a specific price point. Something rugged, Something that will perform well in most conditions. I don't see the problem here.

It's as if you think someone needs to live in Nunavut to justify owning a snow mobile, the grand canyon to justify owning a Jeep or 2000 km away from the nearest town to appreciate a well-built gun. Stop being so obtuse.



Csik and Heli - Will check those places out, thanks a lot.
 
Ok no obtuseness then.

What did you expect when you posted a thread about your first .22 in a centerfire rifle hunting forum?

Your rifle will likely never break, it is a .22 ffs. If you want a cheap .22 buy one of the aforementioned ones that fits. Don't overthink it. Why in the hell do you need a "rugged" rifle in your location? Especially a .22 lr? Will you be packing it for bear defence? Taking it on deer hunts in the middle of the frigid VI winter?

If you want a good .22 follow the advice of every person in this thread and buy a CZ.
 
conor_90 said:
Ok no obtuseness then.

What did you expect when you posted a thread about your first .22 in a centerfire rifle hunting forum?

Your rifle will likely never break, it is a .22 ffs. If you want a cheap .22 buy one of the aforementioned ones that fits. Don't overthink it. Why in the hell do you need a "rugged" rifle in your location? Especially a .22 lr? Will you be packing it for bear defence? Taking it on deer hunts in the middle of the frigid VI winter?

If you want a good .22 follow the advice of every person in this thread and buy a CZ.
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Actually I didn't realize this was in the wrong section until now. Thanks for pointing that out.

To answer the rest of your questions, is the desire to make an informed decision not enough? We all know there are #### products on the market. I work hard for my money, i'm new to .22's and I want to make sure that I buy a quality rifle. Surely that can't be too hard to understand?

Yes, most people have suggested a CZ. Great. I was largely unaware of the brand prior to starting this thread, and thanks to these people I'll probably get one after speaking with the dealers that the few guys who commented earlier suggested.

If you don't want to be helpful, feel free not to reply.

Since this is in the wrong subforum I'll end the discussion here. If I have any more questions I'll post them in the Rimfire section.

Thanks again to those of you who commented, I really appreciate the advice.
 
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