My first pistol narrowed down...

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OK - I have heeded the advice of many and abandoned the idea of a 22 cal for a first

I now have these, in mind and in this order. the caliber of choice is going to be .40 S&W. This is for certain.

One factor is tactical goodies equalled off against resale.

1) Walther P99 Military Edition
2) Baby Eagle Chromed
3) Steyr M40 A-1 (not sure where to find one of these)

In the US these all seem to go for about the same amount, I could literally save hundreds buiyng used in the states however that is probably a slippery slope trying to import and by the time its done may cost more than its worth in headaches and $.

Which of those three would you choose for fun/cool/resale factors?

fed007
 
if possible try the first 2 on the list for feel and wieght... they are very different... they way it feels in your hand and trigger feel will probably be your deciding factor.

there doesn't seem to be much good reviews on the steyr, and i'd probably stay away from it.

I used to have a 9mm P99Military, it was a fun gun and felt great in hand. But a lot of people don't like the trigger.

I've shot another CGN'ers BabyE, it was quite a bit heavier being all steel, didn't feel as good in the hand as my P99, but the trigger was VERY SWEET (quite light)

i think the chromed version of the b eagle will be about the same price as a p99, where as the regular baby eagle will be a bit cheaper....

where are you located fed?
 
Fed007, I would not completely rule out the US way.. Try these guys for import help..http://www.questar.ca/

Also, if you are set on that list, post in the dealer QA for possible sources in Canada.

I have no first hand info on any of the three, so I cannot comment. I find it curious that you left out Glock G22 or Springfield XD-40. Not enough LCF compared to your list?

Regards, Brent
 
None of them. Each one of those has reliability issues and lack of support for repair and accessories within Canada.

You would be better off considering a Beretta, Glock, HK USP or Sig.
 
BrentSc said:
Fed007, I would not completely rule out the US way.. Try these guys for import help..http://www.questar.ca/
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Probably not woth it for a smaller ticket item (or a used gun)
You're looking at $100 US, plus shipping plus taxes...and about 4months turnaround.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not anti Questar...in fact I nabbed one of the OLY AR's they are bringing in and they're about to start an import for me from a US gunsmith (I'm very happy they are in business)...but for the types of guns on fed007's list...they are available in Canada for a very good price and much less hassle...

On that note...forget about the Steyr and add Glock to your list
 
The glock used to be on my list... however I find they lack the aesthectics in my vision of 'tactical'. The XD is not really exotic enough for me. The fore ends of the glock seem to "taper" this kind of bugs me.

I know function is import, however history hass shown pistols to have a strong fashion element. heck all the gun mags show very 'custom' pistols.

Glocks seem all "business" - form follows function only. and I am sure they function great from what I have read. I little too purpose driven for me though.

I like the more futuristic look not so far as the NEOS though :D , and from my selection all the slides have some style. The baby eagle is there because it has some silk smooth lines with hint of the future.

I might like to play with a laser sight at the range too, but style with the eagle can easily outweigh the tactical goodies.

What about resale, would I be correct in thinking I'd have less problems with the baby eagle and retain more value?

I'll probably buy locally in Edmonton because I am an impulse buyer, tomorrow I may change my mind 8) so its today or never!!!

oh yeah by my handle I am a fan of bond, james bond.

fed007
 
fed007 said:
The glock used to be on my list... however I find they lack the aesthectics in my vision of 'tactical'. The XD is not really exotic enough for me. The fore ends of the glock seem to "taper" this kind of bugs me.

I know function is import, however history hass shown pistols to have a strong fashion element. heck all the gun mags show very 'custom' pistols.

Glocks seem all "business" - form follows function only. and I am sure they function great from what I have read. I little too purpose driven for me though.

I like the more futuristic look not so far as the NEOS though :D , and from my selection all the slides have some style. The baby eagle is there because it has some silk smooth lines with hint of the future.

I might like to play with a laser sight at the range too, but style with the eagle can easily outweigh the tactical goodies.

What about resale, would I be correct in thinking I'd have less problems with the baby eagle and retain more value?

I'll probably buy locally in Edmonton because I am an impulse buyer, tomorrow I may change my mind 8) so its today or never!!!

oh yeah by my handle I am a fan of bond, james bond.

fed007
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Excuse me for being blunt..but you asked so here goes.
If you are going to base your decision on which handgun to buy on your "vision" of tactical and how exotic it is..go buy an airsoft.
When you buy a handgun your decision should be based on first if it fits your hand and is comfortable for you to shoot. If neither is there..you won't practice.
Second and just as important..it should be a well made gun with a very good to excellant reputation for reliability and accuracy.
Third would be the above mentioned availability of parts,service,etc.
If you want a "hey look at my cool space age gee whiz" gun..go check the toy section at Wally World.
 
forgot to qualify that I have held both the baby in blue and the walther they are two very differnt styles and weights. I am just confused I don;t know what I want :p

also forgetting to mention I have researched that the functionality/reliability to be the same. so I am really at the last steps. It is generally impulse that pushes me over the top to make a purchase. the LCF is now a factor that is part of the whole package.

The last stage of the selection game for me is the aesthetics - to some ppl this is never a factor - performance can offer style - sports cars are a perfect eg. for $1k these will be good pistols - all of them - I have googled them to exhaustion.

sry if you came to any conclusions , I can't control your mind.
man this board has some ppl that never have anything nice to say...

staying on topic has less chance than winning the lottery.

fed007
 
fed...don't let anyone spoil your fun 8) ...go with the Baby Eagle...Gunnar at Armco sells them and has nice things to say about the quality (he know's a thing or two about pistols)

Cheers
 
No offence but I have to agree with stiker. You seem to want a pistol more for how it will look as you hold it in front of your mirror than for how well it will shoot on the range. Besides, sometimes an ungly duckling that performs like crazy will grow on you.
 
thx - I would like to order today, depending on the pricing I may swing if a deal can be had.

I was just checking to see which one you guys liked for looks/fun/ and resale.

Would the Eagle sell easier for me than the P99?

fe007
 
Striker said:
fed007 said:
The glock used to be on my list... however I find they lack the aesthectics in my vision of 'tactical'. The XD is not really exotic enough for me. The fore ends of the glock seem to "taper" this kind of bugs me.

I know function is import, however history hass shown pistols to have a strong fashion element. heck all the gun mags show very 'custom' pistols.

Glocks seem all "business" - form follows function only. and I am sure they function great from what I have read. I little too purpose driven for me though.

I like the more futuristic look not so far as the NEOS though :D , and from my selection all the slides have some style. The baby eagle is there because it has some silk smooth lines with hint of the future.

I might like to play with a laser sight at the range too, but style with the eagle can easily outweigh the tactical goodies.

What about resale, would I be correct in thinking I'd have less problems with the baby eagle and retain more value?

I'll probably buy locally in Edmonton because I am an impulse buyer, tomorrow I may change my mind 8) so its today or never!!!

oh yeah by my handle I am a fan of bond, james bond.

fed007
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Excuse me for being blunt..but you asked so here goes.
If you are going to base your decision on which handgun to buy on your "vision" of tactical and how exotic it is..go buy an airsoft.
When you buy a handgun your decision should be based on first if it fits your hand and is comfortable for you to shoot. If neither is there..you won't practice.
Second and just as important..it should be a well made gun with a very good to excellant reputation for reliability and accuracy.
Third would be the above mentioned availability of parts,service,etc.
If you want a "hey look at my cool space age gee whiz" gun..go check the toy section at Wally World.
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For crying out loud! HE'S Buying it, not you! fed007 I'm personally a P99 fan. I want one in .40S&W :D
 
fed007, if you go down to Phoenix Range, you may be able to test drive some of these guns for yourself. You might want to phone first and see what they have in their rental pool. But I'm sure they'll have at least a p-99 for you to shoot. You're always better off shooting a gun before making a final decision. You might even find that you don't like .40 if you try some other caliber guns while you're there.
 
:twisted: I am at the end of my research not the beginning...

I have decided - P99 $200 bones cheaper, thx for the input, now I need to buy a big mirror because its no fun actually shooting a tactical .40 :twisted:

look like the eagle is going to going to be second in line.

Happy Happy Joy Joy!!
 
I personally find both Walther and Steyr to be extremely ugly pistols. But like they say, beauty is in eye of the beer holder. Those two pistols are also known for their reliability problems (which might not be an issue if you're only interested in a gun as a fashion accessory). Of the three guns that you listed, I would choose Baby Eagle because (a) it doesn't look like a star trek prop and (b) it doesn't have a jamomatic reputation, unlike the other two.

But if you want a cool looking gun that will also function reliably, I would recommend a two-tone USP or a stainless P226. Sure, they are more expensive than the guns on your list, but you get what you pay for.
 
I thought about the USP... maybe it was just lara croft who turned my head... a guy had one for sale here recently, I have never held one though or seen one close up. pretty neat though.

I have like most been tainted by pop culture to a degree, but I am not OG loc gangsta 8) I am not nearly cool enough. I will always factor in aesthetics, its not jut a bang stick to me, its art. I think all gun makers would believe what they create is a work of art.

The history and engineering behind firearms is a fantastic topic.

about those being ugly... I like em!

The swept appeal of the ergo's on the Steyr and P99 have functional advantages... ppl with the NEOS (gross example) agree the grip/feel of the pistol is very natural, this swept back concept appeals to me I believe it has functional advantages and is pleasant to the eye.

Functionally - the reviews for the P99 are very good for the new production models. The big question will be polymer/resins vs. steel over time - this will allow me an unbiased experience. If I get some of the freak incidents/ breakdowns, I will definitely be second guessing.


fed007
 
Where are you located, fed007? It shouldn't be too hard to find a gunshop that's got a USP in stock.

Oh, and by the way, if you want a Walther because James Bond's using one (judging by your nickname), you need to give your head a shake :lol:
 
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