My First Quarter Inch Group...

Send that photo to Remington, it'd make a great ad ;)

Good shooting and probably even better reloading. I was able to get a couple of ¼" groups with FGM ammo after about half a year of shooting, but once I started reloading, my groups opened up quite a bit. Kudos on finding the right "recipe", doping the right conditions and having steady nerves that day. :cool:

Thought of doing some accurizing?
 
I am using FGMM right now and at two bucks a shot I am VERY interested in learning to reload. I was just wondering if it will be possible to increase the potential of the rifle using reloads even more or if it is just a savings in cost. I guess I'll have to get working on that angle:redface:

I like to belive that I have created the most accurate round capable of being shot from my rifle. I would like to test some FGMM to see what it will do, I just can't get past the price. I can get at least 3 times as many shots for the same $$$. Everything I have ever read tells me that more trigger time is the best way to become proficient at this sport. Therefore I will continue to reload so that I can spend more time doing what I Love...squeezing off a round! Sorry I can't really help with the comparison. Unless you want to send me a box of FGMM???


Guntech :

Although I have nothing to compare it to, I have heard nothing but bad press about my X-Mark-Pro trigger. While spending some quality time at ATRS, I was fondeling a custom M40 clone. It had a Jewel set at 2 lbs. It was love at first squeeze? I couldn't belive the difference, that trigger was amazing. Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather put the $50 towards a new trigger group.

Redman :

Definately, I don't know who said it, but long range shooting is worse than crack. I am sooooo addicted.

Future plans as money becomes available :
1. Jewel Trigger
2. Mcmillan A5 stock
3. New barrel and full accurization...after I have worn out this one.

The plan is to head out to the Homestead this summer and try my hand at some F-class.
 
I have a Jewell and compared to a factory trigger (no matter how you tune it), it's night and day. It ain't the most expensive trigger on the market for nothing ;)

McMillan stocks are great, most people will likely agree. :D

I have a Hart barrel in 308 that has a very low round count. I received it from my friend when he sold me his gun (I only needed the action), and now it's just sitting at the gunsmith's, ready to be taken off. He shot it consistently in the .3's. Let me know if you are interested.
 
I am using FGMM right now and at two bucks a shot I am VERY interested in learning to reload. I was just wondering if it will be possible to increase the potential of the rifle using reloads even more or if it is just a savings in cost.

It is remarkable just how good topnotch factory match ammo can be (e.g. Federal Gold Medal, Norma match, etc). In good rifles, it really can be half-MOA (and even sub-half-MOA) ammo; while handloads can sometime do better yet, that's not nearly as common an occurrence as the Internets might suggest.

The price of factory match ammo is a bigger minus than its accuracy. While it is possible for a very good handloader to make better ammo than factory match ammo, it's actually a pretty major accomplishment to do so.

I have a Jewell and compared to a factory trigger (no matter how you tune it), it's night and day. It ain't the most expensive trigger on the market for nothing ;)

Jewells sure are a nice piece of work (but there are even more expensive triggers out there, e.g. Anschutz ;-). I sure do love and appreciate high quality triggers, they can be such works of art.

A number of years ago I used a single-stage Jewell trigger on my M70 target rifle. In the end I wasn't happy with it, because using it at 3.5# pull was uncomfortable given its very small and thin contact patch with your finger (it was sized to be a 2oz. benchrest trigger).

To be honest, I have found that properly-adjusted factory triggers (Rem, Win, Savage) can be quite good. They do have their limits (the range of pull weights that they correctly work at), but within those limits, they are good enough to win a match. For example, I have gone back to using a plain old factory trigger on my M70, which is now setup as an F-Class or "sniper" configuration. At 3-ish pounds, the factory M70 trigger is perfectly adequate.
 
While it is possible for a very good handloader to make better ammo than factory match ammo, it's actually a pretty major accomplishment to do so.

From my ~6 months of reloading experience, you hit the nail right on the head.

Jewells sure are a nice piece of work (but there are even more expensive triggers out there, e.g. Anschutz ;-).

I thought they only made smallbore triggers... Could you add an Anchutz to an R700 action, or other custom fullbore actions (Surgeon, Stiller, Nesika, etc.)?
 
I thought they only made smallbore triggers... Could you add an Anchutz to an R700 action, or other custom fullbore actions (Surgeon, Stiller, Nesika, etc.)?

Am not sure if they DO make fullbore trigger, or if they DID make them. One shooter I know from Colorado is pretty keen on them. I have one on a Grunig-Elmiger (a Swiss target rifle) that I've never gotten around to shooting, and it is a *gorgeously* breaking trigger.

I think some sort of modification or adapter is required in order to get it to mount to a Rem.700 or equivalent.

Other good fullbore triggers to also consider are the CG, and also the Davies. These are definitely mountable on Rem.700s.
 
ryandpahl

Well you have done it now tks alot now you have me hooked on that 700 5r !!!!!:mad:

Congrats !!!!:dancingbanana:

i have been considering a 5r for a while now i think i might have to splurge when the tax man sends me my check in a few months (tax time is sweet IF YOU GET A REFUND) and get me one.

there are a few 2nd hand for sale here and there but i think i will wait a bit and get a new one.

i do not know if my wife will let me buy a night force but i will beg like my spaniel and she might give in. well she does for the dog anyways :p

nice pics as well keep those groups going keep us inform

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I think the possibility of getting an ammo made to be this reliable with a third of the cost would make the learning process worth it. Then if one was to get three times the shots down range it would be so worth the effort!:D I think that with a little help I might try the reloading soon.
 
Great shooting man!

With regards to the A5 Stock, I bought one and it is great but so was my factory stock. If I had it to do again I would have bought a cheap laminate stock from Boyds, Pillar Bedded it and spent the remaining $500 on ammo. Just my thoughts again, Great Shooting!
 
Excellent group....it feels sooo good when a guys handloading and practice finally pays of with great results you've shown here!!
 
I think the possibility of getting an ammo made to be this reliable with a third of the cost would make the learning process worth it. Then if one was to get three times the shots down range it would be so worth the effort!:D I think that with a little help I might try the reloading soon.

Its totally worth the effort. Most people are put off by the initial setup cost of reloading equipment. But it will pay for itself in no time. If your using FGMM as the standard, you will be saving about $1.40 per shot. This means that the equipment will pay itself in 500 rounds or less depending on what you get.

The cheapest pre-rolled ammo I have ever shot was from a Milsurp battlepack @ $0.75 a round. My reloads are running about $0.63 right now. I don't include the cost of brass in that price because its reusable. Start saving your brass now because the fresh stuff is pricey. However, that cost becomes fractional everytime you reload it. The bullet you choose is the big cost driver, primers and powder are cheap!

Of course the thing to remember is that you don't really save money, instead you spend the savings on more ammo so you can shoot more.
 
Thanks! I think I will be starting the reloading sooner than later. Worth it in the long run to have more trigger time. Now go get that photo framed;):D
 
Nice shootin', and congratulations. No matter how good the equipment, it always has to be used properly by a skilled operator to produce a group like that. Nice!
 
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