My first virgin milsurp - Pics Now up at Post # 37

I will never understand the interest in owning a gun you can never shoot

So true...

She's young, she's beautiful and she's yours. Why wouldn't you unwrap her?

Like anyone else on this forum I'm sure you have tossed away a few thousand bucks on stupid #$%& over the years. This is NOT something you should be concerned with losing a few hundred bucks over. You got to do something a lot of the rest of us will never have the opportunity to do.

Of course that first safe kiss is REALLY gonna hurt :p
 
$350 - $500 Pfffffffffffft, is one good reason. There are many unwrapped specimens out there, that are as pristine as the day they were opened. This in the wrap specimen was an investment as well as a repository of history. I would have left it alone. Mind you if it didn't come with the wrapped bayo and scabbard, it's a toss up.

I don't care one way or the other if you unwrapped the rifle, that makes the unwrapped rifles that little bit more valuable. If it turns your crank to unwrap one and use it, more power to you. I can remember when new in the grease rifles were the norm. Most of the WWII Lee Enfields were never wrapped, that I saw any way. They were greasy messes, stuck together in a wooden crate or metal barrel and sometimes on a pallet. Depending on where you found them, they might even give you some rags or extra paper bags to wrap them in after purchase. There was no such thing as plastic bags or paper towels at that time.

It was always a pleasure to shoot a freshly cleaned up rifle. If they were completely reassembled, with no missing pieces, they were usually quite accurate. It was only after "sporterisation" that the rifles wouldn't shoot well. The bedding and pressure points were gone etc. That's how they got the nick name "car jack handles". Usually by the same person that screwed them up in the first place.

Enjoy your "new" old toy.
 
If some guys don't unwrap them once in a while, the others won't increase in value.

The "collectors" who buy for investment should be cheering him on. That's one more competitive asset off the market.

Now those of us who haven't gotten around to buying a virgin of our own, and see the price likely just went up a few cents for the next one, are cursing you under our breath... ;) :D
 
You go right on ahead and encourage them panman. It's fine with me. That type of logic is only true to a point. That point is long past. There is a huge interest in WWII weapons right now. I realise the 55 Faz rifles aren't WWII vintage but they are at the end of an era that was about to change forever. They're nostalgic and mysterious all at the same time. If its worth $350-$500 to someone to take off the wrapper and degrease a rifle that can be had for half the money already done with only a few rounds down the spout, go for it. Go ahead and curse me all you want. I understand the frustration of seeing them in the wrap. If I didn't already have an unwrapped one, I would be sorely tempted myself.
 
Intersting to see something like a 50-50 split on the unwrapping issue. I was fortunate to buy the rifle at the low end of the market price ( I paid $625 ) for an unwrapped specimen so the financial hit caused by unwrapping was only moderate.

My decision to unwrap was also infomed by the following facts:
(a) I am not in the business of buying and selling firearms for a profit;
(b) don't need the money (several hundred, maybe up to a thousand over a long time) that a long term appreciation would generate;
(c) at nearly 50 years of age I don't have the time to wait for a 20 year appreciation period anyway; and
(c) anyone likely to inherit my stuff wouldn't appreciate the unwrapping anywhere near as much as me

I will, of course, keep the wrap and I have a photographic record of the entire process.

To the two members who took me seriously about bubba'ing - please relax and re-read my original post :)

Safe kisses - ouch - even thinking about the possibility causes my arse to clench.

Bob.
 
Well, since I never buy a gun without the intention of shooting it and don't really plan on reselling any of them I use them for what they're made for. Shoot the crap out of them.
 
Well, since I never buy a gun without the intention of shooting it and don't really plan on reselling any of them I use them for what they're made for. Shoot the crap out of them.

I am starting to see it that way too. Maybe I will start shooting my mint SKS after all. With all of them that will be entering the country through the new Marstar shipment, the price will dip anyways.

Tex Critter: I always snicker at your sig line "Time spent on recce is seldom wasted". Remember: "Time spent on recce is seldom wasted but never recovered"
 
I wouldn't be able to resist unwrapping it, so I would never pay the premium for one still in factory wrap.

Exactly, I see No 4 Mk 2's in nice shape for $350 and up. Really I would have sold the wrapped one for $800-$1000 and bought a $350 shooter, but that's just me. The OP owns the rifle and can do as he wishes.

I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing I had reduced the value of an investment by 2/3. :eek::agree:
 
The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight has one of two remaining air-worthy Lancaster bombers - They fly it regularly. Never mind a few hundred bucks, that aircraft is priceless.

Which is more viscerally appealing: A static display aircraft in a dusty museum somewhere or watching PA474 thunder overhead in the company of a Hurricane and a Spitfire?

Hearing about a pristine paper wrapped rifle in some guys' basement or maybe asking nicely at the range and getting a chance to fire off a couple rounds?
 
Believe me - if this f@#K@#g computer would play ball they would be up. I have emailed some to "Macadoodle" who kindly offered to upload some for me. So patience lads, patience.
 
Here we Go!

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Thanks Macadoodle - appreciate the help mate.

Most are self explanatory save one - the wrapped one is lying between a rebuilt by me (formerly sporterised) 1917 No I MkIII and a very nice 1943 Longbranch.

Bob
 
Nice, I am hoping to eventually get an in wrap Mk2, and un unwrapped, mint one for shooting.

One benefit of unwrapping is you get to be the first person to see, handle, and shoot the rifle in 55 years.
 
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