First time we shot side by side and I realise something is wrong, her groups will be about 2' vertical and 1' horisontal. I asked her to dry-fire and observe sights and of course to her surprise she flich pretty bad, usually down as if expecting recoil. Well, she knows her problem now but nor me neither her knows any trick to get rid of this flinch. Any ideas?
my GF has horible flinch
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ipscgraz
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The good part of this is that she realizes she has a flinch.
Go back to a rimfire for a while until she isn't worried about recoil. Really good ear protection might be a good idea as well.
Go back to a rimfire for a while until she isn't worried about recoil. Really good ear protection might be a good idea as well.
Dry fire practice.
If you have a revolver have her shoot that. Load only 4 rounds in a random pattern. Spin the cylinder then close. Shoot the target. Since you don't know when you have a live round you can try not anticipating the shot going off (flinching). If you don't have a revolver then use snap caps or dummy rounds loaded with live into multiple magazines. Or you load the mags for her. Or go back to a .22 for a while but it still is good to have some shots not go off as described above. Even with a .22 it could mask what she is doing. Nothing like a shot not going off in order to see what you are doing.
Oh yeah, shoot target loads only, not factory power loads.
If you have a revolver have her shoot that. Load only 4 rounds in a random pattern. Spin the cylinder then close. Shoot the target. Since you don't know when you have a live round you can try not anticipating the shot going off (flinching). If you don't have a revolver then use snap caps or dummy rounds loaded with live into multiple magazines. Or you load the mags for her. Or go back to a .22 for a while but it still is good to have some shots not go off as described above. Even with a .22 it could mask what she is doing. Nothing like a shot not going off in order to see what you are doing.
Oh yeah, shoot target loads only, not factory power loads.
Also make sure she is not closing her eyes when she pulls the trigger.
Concentrating on a little thing like trying to not blink when pulling the trigger will do wonders because it makes you forget about trying to flinch. The blink reflex is tied into the flinch.
Yes and go back to rimfire (or even a good airgun) and dryfire. Double up with earplugs and muffs. Even during dryfire make sure she keeps her eyes open, you will be very surprised the huge difference this makes. Let us know the results.
Concentrating on a little thing like trying to not blink when pulling the trigger will do wonders because it makes you forget about trying to flinch. The blink reflex is tied into the flinch.
Yes and go back to rimfire (or even a good airgun) and dryfire. Double up with earplugs and muffs. Even during dryfire make sure she keeps her eyes open, you will be very surprised the huge difference this makes. Let us know the results.
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I learnt this from a fellow Abby member when I start out shoot pistol, Start with load one round at a time, review the posture, stance and griping before pull the trigger, remain the same griping and stance, lock the elbow of two arm. Work 100% all the time.
Tigun
Tigun
great advice out there.
i started with 22 about 30 years ago, and when i have not been to range for a while, back to a 22 again to practice trigger control, sight picture.
excitement throws every shooter off.
single action always easier than double action, but once you are comfortable with double action revolver, the semi auto feels like a piece of cake, to me anyway.
there is a bit of follow through, that even when gun recoils, to try to maintain the sight picture a milli second longer and keep hand and arm still on course, something like golf, etc.
there is analysis out there, i just can't remember off hand, as to what the shooter is doing wrong, if the shot goes up vs down, or right vs left, and how to correct against pulling the shots
any cgn'ers recall the drill, and can help out?
whatever you do, sometimes bulleyes can wait, so should the higher calibers, she can work up to it and master it, in shooting sports, women are not the "weaker ###", and they certainly can outshoot any of us. remind her of this fact if you haven't already
IMHO, just make sure you keep her encouraged in the sport, and she enjoy it, That, as you already know, is the most important aspect.
Good shooting to you both!!!
i started with 22 about 30 years ago, and when i have not been to range for a while, back to a 22 again to practice trigger control, sight picture.
excitement throws every shooter off.
single action always easier than double action, but once you are comfortable with double action revolver, the semi auto feels like a piece of cake, to me anyway.
there is a bit of follow through, that even when gun recoils, to try to maintain the sight picture a milli second longer and keep hand and arm still on course, something like golf, etc.
there is analysis out there, i just can't remember off hand, as to what the shooter is doing wrong, if the shot goes up vs down, or right vs left, and how to correct against pulling the shots
any cgn'ers recall the drill, and can help out?
whatever you do, sometimes bulleyes can wait, so should the higher calibers, she can work up to it and master it, in shooting sports, women are not the "weaker ###", and they certainly can outshoot any of us. remind her of this fact if you haven't already
IMHO, just make sure you keep her encouraged in the sport, and she enjoy it, That, as you already know, is the most important aspect.
Good shooting to you both!!!
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Curing the flinch in female shooter, easily done in 3 steps;
1- Dry fire (or air pistol if you have one available)
2- 22lr
3- Buy her the best ear protector you can get, and have her wear ear-plugs underneat! Over the years, I've found women to be more sensitive to noise the men...
1- Dry fire (or air pistol if you have one available)
2- 22lr
3- Buy her the best ear protector you can get, and have her wear ear-plugs underneat! Over the years, I've found women to be more sensitive to noise the men...
My wife was flinchy as well, as mentioned above, due to noise.
I now ALWAYS introduce new shooters with both earplugs, and ear muffs overtop.
One thing I have also recently started as a result, is dry firing in my garage, with targets up, ears and eyes on, so that the new shooter gets an impression of the range set up / rules, with the ear and eye protection on, and a chance to ask questions where there isn't all sorts of noise going on around us.
Now that we've all tried to chip in our sage advise, I just have to ask: Your lady is flinching when shooting, and NOT because you are touching her, right? Because if that's the case, I doubt any of us here can help you with that problem!!
Neal
I now ALWAYS introduce new shooters with both earplugs, and ear muffs overtop.
One thing I have also recently started as a result, is dry firing in my garage, with targets up, ears and eyes on, so that the new shooter gets an impression of the range set up / rules, with the ear and eye protection on, and a chance to ask questions where there isn't all sorts of noise going on around us.
Now that we've all tried to chip in our sage advise, I just have to ask: Your lady is flinching when shooting, and NOT because you are touching her, right? Because if that's the case, I doubt any of us here can help you with that problem!!
Neal
Glock4ever
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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One trick I like to use to teach new shooters to get over a flinch is to #### a pistol and pass them the pistol (either loaded or unloaded - they never know) when they pull the trigger they are surprised every time and frequently they get over their flinch as sometimes they will drop the hammer and nothing happens and sometimes the pistols goes bang. I found that it would teach better, consistent trigger control.
Girl flinch
I'm working on flinch removal myself. Snap caps really help. I shoot 1 cylinder of ammo to see where I'm at then snap caps. I can see the muzzle waver to the right, then keep going with the snap caps until it doesn't waver. Also without the noise and kick it helps me focus on technique and aim and the all so important squeezing of the trigger rather than the jerk of a quick pull. I consider this my warm up at each shoot. By the end of the shoot I can see the difference on the target. Now at 'warm up' my muzzle wavers less and less. If a set seems really off during the shoot, I just go back to snap caps for a few turns of cylinder. Happy shooting!
I'm working on flinch removal myself. Snap caps really help. I shoot 1 cylinder of ammo to see where I'm at then snap caps. I can see the muzzle waver to the right, then keep going with the snap caps until it doesn't waver. Also without the noise and kick it helps me focus on technique and aim and the all so important squeezing of the trigger rather than the jerk of a quick pull. I consider this my warm up at each shoot. By the end of the shoot I can see the difference on the target. Now at 'warm up' my muzzle wavers less and less. If a set seems really off during the shoot, I just go back to snap caps for a few turns of cylinder. Happy shooting!
- Location
- Calgary, AB
10 rounds .22 lr / 10 center fire / 10 .22 lr / 10 Center .....
Works everytime for me if I have not been to the range in a while.
Works everytime for me if I have not been to the range in a while.
i had the same trouble.....then my friend told me to stop hitting her....lol..jk
seriously i am single, can you see why?
I had horrible flinch...i was told top keep dry firing then shoot 22 over and over and as it turns out i got better and plus the steady ad quietness of my bow helped prepare me for pulling gun trigger.
seriously i am single, can you see why?
I had horrible flinch...i was told top keep dry firing then shoot 22 over and over and as it turns out i got better and plus the steady ad quietness of my bow helped prepare me for pulling gun trigger.
