my glock and I are not getting along

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So I purchased a 4th gen glock 17, I do not consider myself an experienced shooter. I have a Sig 1911 in 45 that I can shoot 3 " grouping at 10 yards consistently. With this glock its like a wild west shoot out bullets everywhere, constantly shooting left. On a silhouette I have to shoot the right shoulder to hit the centre mass an every 6th or so shot is completely wild. I am consistently aiming for the same spot every time. any ideas, improve stance, grip, sights?
 
sounds like you might be used to a fine tuned Ferrari and now your driving a Toyota.

haha really i have no clue what im talking about, i just always wanted to say something like that.
 
Get a 3.5# connector and a lighter spring package. It will reduce the trigger pull to an acceptable level. If you really want to go "Cadillac" get a ZevTech fulcrum trigger.

Also, stock Glock sights leave much to be desired. Swap them out with something good (Warren Tactical, Heinie, Truglo, etc).

If you make the above changes you'll have removed all mechanical barriers to getting tight groups.

It is possible to shoot accurately with the stock connector... It's just easier with a modified pistol.
 
lil_juiced_coupe said:
So I purchased a 4th gen glock 17, I do not consider myself an experienced shooter. I have a Sig 1911 in 45 that I can shoot 3 " grouping at 10 yards consistently. With this glock its like a wild west shoot out bullets everywhere, constantly shooting left. On a silhouette I have to shoot the right shoulder to hit the centre mass an every 6th or so shot is completely wild. I am consistently aiming for the same spot every time. any ideas, improve stance, grip, sights?
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You have to shoot to reset.

With a Glock, especially, do not release the trigger fully at the shot. Fire the shot, continue holding the trigger to the rear, follow through, and - slowly - release the pressure on the trigger only until you can feel the striker reset. Do not release the trigger any further. Confirm sight alignment and then take up the slack until the next shot breaks.

This will benefit you no matter what you're shooting, but it is especially important in some firearms, like the Glock, with a long trigger travel.

Firearm Trigger Reset Technique
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fJ-zYADwo&feature=related
 
I had trouble with my Glock, at first. You don't need a new trigger, you just need to dry fire about 1000 times. Remember, you don't have to fully cycle the slide, just pull it back a couple of centimetres to re-set the striker. Glocks take a lot of practise, but after a while you'll notice how easy it is to point and shoot. I almost sold mine, but I'm really glad I didn't.
 
Repro77- What about DA? I have a new 226, and that first shot is not as consistent as my Glock. The Sig is pretty darn nice, I have to admit.
 
IMO your money would be better spent on the trigger than new sights. Try searching youtube for Glock trigger jobs. The 3.5# connector is good but polishing all the friction points makes a huge difference and it's easy to do.
again, just my opinion
peace..
 
lil_juiced_coupe said:
Would love to, but cant take my whole weekend away and spend that kinda $. Looks like I'm just going to have to tough it out and get use to the gun and swap the sights out perhaps....
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http://vickerstactical.com/tactical-tips/night-sights/

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Trigun said:
Learn the trigger brother! once you know how to deal with Glock trigger, you will love it.

Trigun
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I think this is the right advice. I started out with GLOCK 17, sold it, then went through a long time where I had no GLOCKS and I thought they sucked. Then I got a GLOCK 19 and, with some practice, learned how to shoot it. I have a GLOCK 19 with the 3.5 connector, but I have several other GLOCKs without it, and in the future I will be moving away from the 3.5 connector altogether. I don't need it any more. I can shoot my GLOCK as well - or better - than any of the pistols I have tried (and I have tried a lot of them, as those that have seen my Youtube channel will know!)

Some people will disagree with what I say, no doubt, but this is what has worked for me with GLOCK:

1. You know the old thing about "squeeze the trigger, slowly, don't pull it!" Well, forget that with GLOCK. It's bad advice. If you are trying to finesse the trigger on a GLOCK the way you would on a finely tuned 1911 trigger, or even some SIGs and other guns, forget it. You will not have success with a GLOCK like that. What I like to think in terms of with GLOCK is: (a) firm grip; (b) high grip; (c) right (dominant) arm straight; (d) look "down" the gun and focus on the front sight. Forget the rear sight, and if you still have that stock plastic rear sight on there with all the white on it - get rid of that. Get Trijicon night sights. That's what I like; (e) take up the trigger to its break point and pull it back, shotgun style, with some authority. You don't have to use the very tip of your finger, and do not try and finesse it with as minimal force as possible; (f) use the trigger reset. The reset is one of the best features of the GLOCK.

This approach has worked for me. I can now shoot my GLOCKs, especially the 9 - but it works with the 40s and 45s as well - fast and very accurate.

Remember, GLOCKs are actually very accurate. It is not the gun, the barrel, how you are cleaning it or any of that. It is what you are doing with the trigger. It sounds to me like you are trying to finesse the trigger. Save that for you 1911's!!! GLOCKS, grip it hard, keep your dominant arm straight and let 'er rip! They are made for fast accurate shooting, and they are a great design.

[Disclaimer - I also own and love SIGs, HKs and other types of firearms. 1911's, CZs, Beretta's, etc., all are good. GLOCKs are not perfect or better than everything else. All I am saying is that they require a different mindset that other pistols if you want to shoot them well]
 
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