my glock and I are not getting along

assuming you are a right hander, center the trigger on your index fingerprint. second, get used to the fact the trigger has a trigger-safety and make sure you take up all the slack on the trigger safety before you start your consistent pull to the rear.

before you head to the range, here is an at home exercise. Balance a dime or a empty case on the top of your front sight post and practice dry firing without the dime or casing falling off the fsp.

print this target;

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Go shoot.

I am guessing you might be putting too much finger into the trigger, too close to the first finger joint. It is important to train your finger to pull straight to the rear and not have a trigger pull that consists of pulling your finger in a circular motion around the trigger. The pad of your index finger should stay perpendicular to your bullet trajectory and pull directly to the rear, not having any side pressure from your finger on either side of the trigger.

As for the sights, make sure you have equal light on the left and right of your front sight post when you aim, and that the front sight post is as high in the rear notch as the tops of the rear sight notches.

slow down your shooting too, its a new gun, you'll get the hang of it. Save your money for ammo instead of glow in the dark sights or light triggers or whatever other mods people tell you you might need. Problems with accuracy are 95% caused by the shooter (including myself in that statement), and buying crutches for your gun won't improve your accuracy overall. Who knows if you can manage to get a grip on your glock maybe you can shoot 2" groups with your 1911 afterwords.....

on a last note, that flyer you get on the 6th shot is likely caused by you being annoyed about the rest of the rounds you are chasing around the target. ;)
 
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Try pushing the sides down really tightly and then it should work. Oh wait...that's the "other" kind of tupperware...

get a 1911 :)
 
Proutfoo said:
on a last note, that flyer you get on the 6th shot is likely caused by you being annoyed about the rest of the rounds you are chasing around the target. ;)
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o you better believe it, I would like to throw the gun at the target sometimes.

It's not in my nature to just give up and buy a new gun, I enjoy the challenge of learning the new guns. Yes buying another 1911 would be easier for me, but I bought the glock for its durability and how reliable it is.

Thanks to everyone who gave constructive help, I will take all this info to the range and apply it to the best of my ability.
 
lil_juiced_coupe said:
Would love to, but cant take my whole weekend away and spend that kinda $. Looks like I'm just going to have to tough it out and get use to the gun and swap the sights out perhaps....
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You are right that taking a course would be beneficial, but the offer still stands. We are factory authorized Glock armourers (as well as Remington, Sig, S&W, Colt etc.) and would be happy to look at your firearm to help rule that out as the culprit. Since we are a licensed gun club, your ATT will allow you to transport. We can then do some dry fire work with you on our laser training simulator, make suggestions and give you some drills and reading material to take home. This is one of the many things that we offer to our club members and we would be happy to extend that offer to you at no charge.

Anyone who can see the front sight and press a trigger has the ability to pick up a properly functioning handgun score X’s consistently. All it requires is knowledge and practice. Contrary to what some would tell you, practice does not make perfect… only perfect practice makes perfect.

Take care.
 
newshot said:
Try pushing the sides down really tightly and then it should work. Oh wait...that's the "other" kind of tupperware...

get a 1911 :)
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He does have a 1911 - its a Sig.

Proutfoo nailed it as to the best fixes. At 10 yards with his Sig 1911, groups should be touching not 3", and no way that Glock should be printing COM when aiming at the shoulder at 10 yards unless the front sight grew 2x and moved to the right corner of the slide - or rear sight is falling off the left.

Sorry lil juiced, you just have to practice more. That's 1/2 the fun!
 
In all seriousness, L'il Juiced, have you tried some dry firing and / or occasional dummy rounds in your mags, to ensure you are not developing a flinch? The tupperware pistols DO tend to feel like there is more of a "whack" than an all steel beast like a 1911, and you may have un-learned some trigger control.

Also, I find the Glock grips to be as ergonomic as hockey sticks, so if you have a bad fit, you may need to put a grip sleeve or some such, so that you end up with good index finger alignment with the trigger, so that each trigger press is directly backwards into the frame, and not slightly off to one side.

Do an interwebz search for something like "dry firing drills", do that for a week, then go hit the range again.

Report back to us.

Cheers,

Neal
 
mudgunner49 said:
So you're saying that something with a consistent shot to shot trigger pull is harder to shoot that a traditional DA/SA or a DAO handgun???

Really??? :rolleyes: Smilies for sarcasm would make this much easier to accept... :cool:
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Did you just say "consistent" for a Glock trigger?

No, seriously?
 
nelly said:
Did you just say "consistent" for a Glock trigger?

No, seriously?
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he's obviously referring to the fact that a DA/SA pistol will have a different trigger pull on the first round when the pistol is fired DA, as each subsequent round is fired SA. Whereas a Glock will always have the same trigger pull on the first, third or last round...

this guy is asking a legit question to improve his shooting, pissing contests on whose favorite design is this that and the other thing better than the other one is pointless here :rolleyes:
 
well I watched those videos that where linked, it seems my biggest problem is most likely trigger control. I have been sitting here all afternoon dry firing and I have noticed I do have a slight jerk when I pul the trigger which I believe is me anticipating the shot and/or padding the shot. I have found that with proper trigger pull I have much less movement. Guess I have to keep practicing that and follow through. There is so much more to pistol shooting than rifles, although I was terrible when I started that as well.
 
You don't need the new disconnect, really. You only do yourself a favour by learning to drive it properly.

Handguns ARE a lot more challenging to shoot well, just because of the number of human joints that could be moving, when the shot is made. Stick with it!
 
Proutfoo said:
he's obviously referring to the fact that a DA/SA pistol will have a different trigger pull on the first round when the pistol is fired DA, as each subsequent round is fired SA. Whereas 1. a Glock will always have the same trigger pull on the first, third or last round...

this guy is asking a legit question to improve his shooting, 2. pissing contests on whose favorite design is this that and the other thing better than the other one is pointless here :rolleyes:
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1. That...

2. True enough - unfortunately there are far too many folks willing to give bad advice and pass it off as a representation of firearms competence. If you've been shooting for a couple of years and have managed to accumulate a whole mess of safe-queens, and your idea of "great shooting" is the ability to keep 10 rounds on a dinner plate from 10 metres you probably shouldn't be giving advice at all.

OP - get a .22 pistol as close to your centrefire as possible - there are several conversion units out there for the Glock that work very well (I have the Advantage Arms with fixed sights and it's been pretty good over about 3500 rds). A centre-fire of any kind probably isn't the best thing to start learning on, and .22LR is both cheap, plentiful and doesn't beat you up to the point that you either start developing bad habits or can't get rid of them if you already have them.

You have to learn to shoot in the mud but you don't have to learn how to shoot in the mud - get it???


blake
 
This is kinda weird, Im having the opposite experience i just bought a glock to replace my sig because i can't hit a damn thing with my Sig. I can shoot my glock 1 handed better than my sig off a rest.
 
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