My heart is balancing between two chassis... KRG Bravo or Oryx... Pros - cons anyone?

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Hi!
For my new Tikka T3x Varmint (6.5CM) I want to add a chassis, mostly because I do PRS and want to fit the AICS mags.
Was at first hesitating for the Cadez Nuke, but I do have severals AICS mags so I've discarded this option.
So I am struggleling between KRG Bravo, or Oryx...

Any advice or thoughst?

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How about MDT XRS? Looks better than the bravo in my opinion and takes AICS mags. A whole pound heavier than the bravo, though.
 
I have several Bravos and am very happy with them. Had the XRS existed when I bought them I probably would have gone with that as it is designed for PRS. Don’t get me wrong though, the Bravo works great. One of the best attributes that no one mentions is that they are plastic so you won’t be chipping or scratching paint.
 
Bravo for sure. I had the oryx and still have one on a .22. The bravo has more features to really customize it to your liking. The short fore end is a bummer, but a spigot fixes that issues. The xrs doesn't look as good as the bravo in my opinion
 
Thanks. I didn't know much about the MDT XRS, I'll have to do my homework about it!, Interesting as it is very very similar to the KRG. I like the fact that the grip of the XRS can be interchanged to angular or straight, and both included in the package for the same price (or cheaper!). I personally like more a lightly angled grip.

Evil Dark
 
I don't have any experience with the Oryx but I've heard it's nice. I had a Bravo and currently have an XRS. I've detailed it in other posts but the Bravo really needs the spigot as it's quite short (ie too short to use a Gamechanger bag while a bipod is mounted). That drives up cost and weight. With a spigot, the Bravo is only about a 1/4lbs lighter than the XRS. For hunting, you could do without the spigot on the Bravo but not for PRS-type shooting. I also honestly prefer the "feel" of the XRS in my hands, granted that's super subjective.
 
If I'm not incorrect, the Cadex nuke is rather poor value as it's only a mini-chassis whereas the Oryx and KRG Bravo are both full on chassis
 
I've been reviewing the MDT XRS option, and now I will go with the MDT over the Bravo. The barricade stick and possibility of changing the grip for a angular one, plus the longer forend and cheaper price is making me go for it.
I just have to decide werther if I choose black or FDE... My action /barrel is stainless, so Black will have a killer look! But I always wanted to have a FDE rifle... Hmmm decision decision....

Evil_Dark
 
XRS is nice solid stock...
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Go with the Cadex Strike Nuke ! You can get it with the AICS bottom metal. That’s what I did

Ordered it for the tx1 and got the aics mag bottom metal
 
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I've had a Bravo for a while now, and a MDT XRS showed up at my door recently.
I considered the Oryx, but it had a couple downsides that I couldn't get past. the first is the rear stock - with the giant hook it's not rear bag friendly at all. for PRS it's fine, but for those of us who like our Protektor/bunny ear bags off a bench it's not. and it doesn't look like there's any way to easily attach a bag rider to the base. second is looks - I'm sure it's solid as hell, but I'm just not a fan of the lines or the color.
I also considered a Cadex strike nuke, but that short fore end was a deal breaker for what I wanted.

I'll give a bit of a comparison between the XRS and Bravo, it may help someone with their decision, as they're pretty similar.

XRS:
when it comes to fit and finish everything forward of the grip is perfection, but the bolted together clamshell buttstock doesn't perfectly line up. it's close, better than Hitzy showed in another thread, but I can catch my finger nail on the seam where the two halves meet and there's a tiny gap between the two halves just behind the tang. mine also has the injection hole at the front/bottom of the buttstock that Hitzy noted, but it's been filled in somewhat and is in a place where nobody will ever notice or care. fit and finish is quite good, but it's not perfect. I'm still giving it a big thumbs up for $500.
my Tikka CTR fits perfectly in the chassis. that being said, the mag well does not play nice with my Tikka CTR. the spring tension on the CTR mag release is higher than anything else I've played with, and the front of the magwell on the XRS isn't chamfered. I simply cannot insert a mag straight up, like every other AICS rifle I've ever held, as the stiff CTR mag release naturally pushes the mag forward and the front of the magazine hits the chassis instead of feeding into the magwell. to change a mag I need to do it AK-style, by inserting the front of the mag first before rocking it backward and up. I didn't have the same issue at all running the CTR in a Bravo, because the front of the mag well on the bravo is angled/chamfered and doesn't tend to catch. it's not a big deal, but will take some time to make it second nature. I only run metal mags, which are pretty tight in the XRS. no idea how poly mags would fit.
barrel channel is huge. the barrel of my CTR looks tiny, the XRS should be able to fit a truck axle with room to spare.
the fore end on the XRS is the same length as a Bravo with a spigot. this was a big selling point for me. it's flat, unlike the Oryx. at some point mine will be getting an arca rail.
the fore end on the XRS is quite shallow, which makes it less top-heavy off a bipod/barricade than the Bravo (if you aren't shooting off the spigot). the base of the fore end of the XRS is as close to the barrel as the spigot mount is on the Bravo. it's relatively shallow, but stiff as hell.
weight - I didn't weight the two on a scale, but the XRS feels heavier than my Bravo + spigot + tool-less buttpad adjustment. if I were to guess, I'd say 1/4lb heavier. both are Tikka inlets.
action screws - captured in the chassis, needing an extended bit to reach. the slot above them is exactly the same width as the allen wrench needed to tighten them. none of my extended allen bits will fit through those narrow slots, so I need to buy one somewhere so that I can properly torque the damned things. less than impressed by that, MDT could have given us a little more width.
I like the overmolded grips, and like that I can run either an angled or vertical grip. I put the vertical grip on right away, but the angled grip felt good offhand. the chassis isn't light, but if you want to hunt off-hand it's nice to have the option.
I don't mind the LOP spacer system. not having to completely unscrew the buttpad to add spacers eliminates dropped bolts and cross-threading.
really wish the buttstock had a bag rider option, or that MDT made a base that filled in hook like KRG does. that being said, there are two screw holes at the bottom/rear of the stock (roughly 1-5/8" apart), which no pictures online show anywhere, so we have the ability to bolt on a bag rider if we want. hopefully MDT makes one for the XRS, as they make them for their other chassis.


the Bravo:
it's better finished than the XRS, no mold lines, no sharp edges of any form. the lines on the fore end don't perfectly match those on the back half of the rifle, which everyone has #####ed about since day one. I don't even notice it TBH, but you will if you're OCD.
the chassis is lighter than the XRS, and feels more "hollow" and plasticky, but I couldn't detect any flex anywhere. it's not light enough that I'd take it sheep hunting, so the weight difference isn't important to me.
KRG makes tons of accessories for it. I bought a tool-less butt pad kit, which I really like for when I shoot prone, as well as a spigot. you can bolt on a Whiskey stock if you want, tool-less reach adjustment ($$$), as well as different fore ends. it's basically Lego, except more expensive. but when you start doing that, you get close to the cost of an ESS or ACC pretty quick.
the short fore end really does need the $125-200 spigot if you're shooting off a bipod IMO. without the spigot my Tikkas both felt unbalanced front to rear, as well as top heavy.
the grip lacks overmolding, but is textured and not slippery. the palm swell is slightly larger than the vertical grip on the XRS. I don't like the vertical grip for off-hand shooting, so I consider the XRS design more versatile.
the magwell is chamfered, making it faster and way more brainless to insert mags. especially if your mag release spring tension is on the high side, like my CTR. it holds mags slightly looser than the XRS, but no more than anything else. I've never had feeding issues with any of my Accurate Mag or MDT AICS steel mags.
action screws are captured, and you'll need an extended allen bit to reach the front one. KRG makes one, and Tom at GBT sells them. if you don't have one, make sure you buy the stupid thing when you order the chassis so that you can properly torque them. I didn't, because some days I'm just not that bright, but Tom had one in my hands a few days later because he's awesome.

if I were to be starting from scratch today, I'd pick the XRS over the Bravo. it's nearly $200-300 cheaper if you factor in a spigot for the KRG, but with similar build quality and a few features that I prefer over the Bravo.
my $0.02, as someone who owns those two. hope this helps someone.
 
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That 3 piece plastic shell on XRS is hideous. Not that anyone should care, but to my eye it is.

XRS is practically the same weight as LSS XL with a decent stock and you can choose multiple options.

Bravo stock is almost a pound lighter that XRS. With a lot of options to add-on. XRS is fixed even the panels are not removable. But all Bravo addons are significantly more money.

XRS is $500. Bravo bare is $650. But if you are up to $650 Cadex Strike Nuke Evo is $635.

It would appear to me that Strike Nuke Evo is better than both XRS and bare Bravo in everything, expect weight. Check on Nuke Evo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NN6pX_a7K4

I'm not sure what kind of lead chunks they used to make a plastic stock to get to 5.1 lbs. But it is at least solid.
 
For a SA 700, the XRS is $500, Bravo is $550, Strike Nuke is $635, and the LSS XL is $830+ (depending on which fixed stock and grip you get it can break $900). Tikka inlets are a bit more for some of them.

The Cadex was one stock that I really wanted to love, but that short front end (and no spigot) crossed it off my list. For a 5.1lb boat anchor that nobody is going to be happy carrying up a mountain to shoot an elk, why not make it a few oz heavier and extend the fore end 3-4" for the target crowd? No idea why it's over 4lbs, but Cadex doesn't build their stuff to break.

I looked hard at the LSS XL, and to be blunt I couldn't get past the fact that it instantly reminds me of a Savage stealth. It's also over $900 with the nicer skeleton butt stock, which puts it very close to ESS price. And if I'm going ESS I might as well spend $100 more for an ACC to have the integrated arca rail and long fore end and the weight system potential. Spending more gets you more, but that's a deep rabbit hole in this sport.
I was fully committed to buying an ACC at one point, but my budget was lowered substantially with my wife being laid off a few weeks ago. the XRS didn't seem like a big compromise, and now that I have it in my hands I can say it isnt. Wife found another job yesterday, right after the XRS showed up, so we will see how long it takes before I order an ACC. LOL.
 
ACC is a very heavy and bulky compared to Bravo. These smalls steps get you too far from XRS or Bravo way too fast)
 
Be careful with Oryx, I ordered one and waited a month before asking them what was happening with the order. Was told they were out of stock and would be 6 to 8 week wait. Nowhere on their website did it say the stock was unavailable, nor did they advise out of stock when I placed the order. Been 2 1/2 months already.
 
It was between the XRS and Bravo for me, and I went for the Bravo as it was a pound lighter and I liked the grip depth and angle better (yes, I know the grips on the XRS are interchangeable). I could also add a toolless adjustable buttpad. Rifle build is still ongoing so I haven't tested it out at the range yet, but the grip feels pretty good in my hand.

However, if you don't mind the weight and grip angle the XRS is worth considering, but I don't see any options for toolless adjustable buttpad upgrades, nor is the chassis available for long actions (yet?).
 
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