My M305 Slam fired

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Hi guys,
I just wanted to share want happened to me this week when I tested my dad's new .308WIN to .32ACP adaptor prototype made for him by a local machinist.

Since the adaptor could not be feeded in the chamber from the mag, I would insert the adaptor first then put the .32 cartridge in the adaptor. At one time I let the bolt go forward at full speed and "BANG!" Well, more of a "bang" but nonetheless the rifle did fired. I knew this could happen but I just didn't think of it at the moment.

By the way, don't worry, the round just went in the ground toward the target.
 
7.62Nato said:
Its in the stickies. On an M14, you NEVER insert a cartridge in to the chamber and let her slam home. Because of its free floating firing pin, this is an absolute no no.
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I know, it's written in the manual. I just wanted to share this incident with you guys.
 
good one to share , glad nothin bad happened..... it's all good, we live n learn..... some lessons more painfull then others :D

it would be cool to have an adapter like you mention that could be used in semi auto..... would be fun. I have heard of using sabot assisted 223 loads in the m14.... something i'll be trying down the road
 
You had a really heavy bolt slam into a really soft primer! What did you think would happen.

With properly loaded ammunition and the correct primer, shooters have single loaded thier m-14's (and M1 Garands) for the national match slow fire matches for years. Done correctly it is not a problem.

Scott
 
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i was watching some youtube videos of spec ops guys with sage ebr equiped smith enterprise socom type silenced m14 rifles.
using subsonics and closed gas assembly, cycling the rounds by hand. very cool to watch and kind of an eye opener to the manipulation of the gas system.

These caliber adaptors you guys mention is something i've never thought of for a semi.... i've heard of them being used in bolt guns.... but my experience in these things is a big zero :redface:

dammit...... one more thing to research and fixate on hehehehe i love this place :runaway:
 
45ACPKING said:
These caliber adaptors you guys mention is something i've never thought of for a semi.... i've heard of them being used in bolt guns.... but my experience in these things is a big zero :redface:

dammit...... one more thing to research and fixate on hehehehe i love this place :runaway:
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If you didn't like using the adapter in a bolt rifle...Don't even try it in the semi!

It is a pain in the ass...BUTTT for me it works. The only rifle I have sutable for deer is my M-305. I also like to use it for grouse while out and about.

.32 ACP accuracy is all that I would wan't concidering the situation. Kills a grouse dead, accurate enough to save the breast meat.

Nic
 
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What you need is a SLED. "http://www.fulton-armory.com/SLED.htm" I don't think one exists for the M14, hence the always load from the mag rule.
 
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No surprise here. On top of what has already been said,the pistol primer in the .32ACP round is considerably "softer" than any rifle primer which makes it that much more liable to detonate under the impact of the floating M14 firing pin when the bolt slams closed. This is why MILSPEC primers are harder than commercial spec. The only commercial primers which are purported to conform to MILSPEC are the CCI #34 and #41. Having said that, I have had no difficulties using both REM and WIN LR primers in thousands of M1/M14 reloads-subject to the usual caveats of seating primers below flush with the casehead and only loading from the mag or en bloc clip. If one wishes to single load an M1/M14 without a mag or SLED,the correct/safe method is to chamber the round and then ride the op rod forward under hand control and only release the op rod to full spring pressure shortly before the bolt begins to rotate into battery.This minimizes the inertia which the firing pin gains when the bolt is allowed to slam all the way closed from the "hold open" position.
 
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