My new .30/30 mould. (updated 14 - IV - 19)

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From Accurate moulds, a 155 gr. flat nose, plain base, with no lube grooves.
I ordered it to cast .309 with my alloy and it does. Clear powder coat adds a bit and they slide through a .310 die very easily.
My load was 15 gr. of 2400 and m/v around 1700 f/s.
The group shown is 2 & 5/8 inches with 9 of them going into 2 & 1/8 inches. (100 yards)
I fired 20 rounds yesterday and 20 more today, without cleaning. These are shots 31-40.
The cases come out very clean, and when neck sizing in my Lee collet die, I don't use any lube.
So fouling isn't an issue with this load. I may have to wait until spring to try to push the speeds up.

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Accurate Moulds are great, but the sprue plate swings sideways, instead of forward. This old dog learned a new trick, but it took a while.
These moulds like lots of heat to get them up to speed. They sit on the hot plate on high, until the lead in the pot melts.
Sometimes, I have to fill two cavities for ten pours, them 3 cavities for a bit and then all four cavities.
After that, they pour so nicely that you don't want to stop.

Imagine, if you will, that you're a homely guy, with a gorgeous wife, who likes hot, kinky ###, is a great cook, and treats you like a prince.
However, for five minutes each morning, she's an absolute world class b#tch.
It's similar to owning an Accurate mould.
 
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I wonder if the ones without the lube grooves are supposed to be more accurate? Anybody out there done an accuracy comparison of before and after modifying a standard mould to a "no lube groove" one? May not be a true comparison though as the bullet would weigh slightly more than the original.
 
BTW, these bullets feed very smoothly in my Norc M14 in dummy rounds. Hopefully in my M1, also.
I won't even bother trying in my 1903 Springfields.
 
slug said:
BTW, these bullets feed very smoothly in my Norc M14 in dummy rounds. Hopefully in my M1, also.
I won't even bother trying in my 1903 Springfields.
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I have had very good luck with 3 different cast bullets in my Springfield M1A and my M305 as far as feeding goes. The groups are fair I guess, 5 shot 100 yard groups usually 2 to 3 inches with some 1 1/2 groups thrown in randomly.:)
I have started adding more tin and antimony instead of straight wheel weights to try and reduce the minor damage to the tip of the bullets on the feed ramp. Haven't tried them yet.
 
slug said:
Accurate Moulds are great, but the sprue plate swings sideways, instead of forward. This old dog learned a new trick, but it took a while.
These moulds like lots of heat to get them up to speed. They sit on the hot plate on high, until the lead in the pot melts.
Sometimes, I have to fill two cavities for ten pours, them 3 cavities for a bit and then all four cavities.
After that, they pour so nicely that you don't want to stop.

Imagine, if you will, that you're a homely guy, with a gorgeous wife, who likes hot, kinky ###, is a great cook, and treats you like a prince.
However, for five minutes each morning, she's an absolute world class b#tch.
It's similar to owning an Accurate mould.
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You didn't get the mold warm enough. Aluminum dissipates heat faster than steel and can be harder to warm up, more so in an unheated shop or garage. Try putting a small lid over the mold while it's preheating on the hotplate, it helps.

I have somewhere around 60 aluminum molds, of which about half are Accurate. They are no different to preheat than any other aluminum mold, which is to say not bad at all. I stopped using a hotplate and just heat on top of the pot now. I can generally drop good bullets from the first pour onwards.
 
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I many be old fashioned but I like to see some groves on my cast bullet to hold a bit of lube. a smooth bullet never interested me at all.
 
mg34 said:
I many be old fashioned but I like to see some groves on my cast bullet to hold a bit of lube. a smooth bullet never interested me at all.
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I take it you don't powder coat your cast bullets???

I've eliminated the need for lubing my cast bullets with powder coating. It's just to easy to do, eliminates most fouling and doesn't make a mess of the cartridge carrier or gather dirt.

Still, there are other things I'm not nearly so progressive on.

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finstr said:
Very cool bullet! I want one.
Do you not require a cannelure for a crimp at all?
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No cannelure required for a crimp to be put on a cast slug. Most commercial molds have a crimp ring in the mold and it can help to indicate where to crimp a round and be "in the ball park for OAL on most lever gun chambering's but the ring isn't "compulsory" for lead slugs. I have crimped 1000's of rounds between the first grease groove & crimp groove and have never noticed a difference in boolit performance.
 
rodauto said:
I wonder if the ones without the lube grooves are supposed to be more accurate? Anybody out there done an accuracy comparison of before and after modifying a standard mould to a "no lube groove" one? May not be a true comparison though as the bullet would weigh slightly more than the original.
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The black powder cartridge guys have been working on this for around 150 years and the muzzleloader guys even longer. They use a smooth bullet paper patched compared to grease groove. They stay smooth too because the paper engages the rifling whereas the powder coated bullet is groove diameter and has the rifling engraved into it.
From what I understand, the smooth bullet has an edge after 600 yards or something like that. But there's a host of different concerns in getting the patching right.

I'm probably never going to get good enough or patient enough to go down that road.
 
I'm with you! A pal has paper patch moulds he wants me to use. I think he just wants to frustrate me trying to wrap bullets. I spent the day yesterday casting 45-70 rifle bullets of three different weights, 50-70 and .44 pistol; all 'greasers'. That's a lot of sizing and lubing, but the idea of paper patching revolts me.
 
I tried five rounds out of my shorty Nork M14 today.
About 33 gr. of 748 functioned fine.
It was just at 50 yards, about four inches, but from a crappy rest since there's still lots of snow on the range.
It's a nice plinking load and should be dandy for the outlaw ODPL rifle shoots at short range.


Update - 15- IV
Tried again today with a better rest.
5 shots into 2 & 1/2 inches.
I'll have a red dot installed for the next run.
 
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