My new baby girl, born 23-02-2006, 16lbs 12oz

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At the riflesmith's, Jim Dugan of Do-Gun's Unlimited, seconds after I first saw her... and she's a switch barrel :D

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Do-Gun 6mm/250 30 ° Chamber .2715 NK Manson Reamer which is a hair bigger and with a little more capacity than the Tubb's 6XC, thus 105's around 3050 fps with 35g of Varget or 39g of H4350, with only 25 MOA of up from 100 to 1000 yds and 79 MOA from 100 to 1800 yds :) With the 60 MOA in the scope and 40 MOA inserts and 20 MOA bases.... only need 100 MOA for 2000 yds... via Sierra Suite, but she goes sub at around 1700 yds and should be doing 1590 at 1000 yds :) Intended for F-Open class.

6mm/250 30 ° IMP fired formed case on left, and 6XC fire formed on right. The camera angle is wrong here for the ruler to be of any use but pic shows the case shoulders height diff, which is the only diff I could measure or find and it's approx a thou diff! The XC in this pic measures 1.875 and the 6/250 in this pic is 1.891 in length. At the top of the body/shoulder junction, both measure 0.454. and at the base, both measure .0463.

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Case making is a little bit of work (Lapua 308 brass ran thru a SB 308 die then thru a 4 die form set down to Savage 250, then inside neck reamed, and formed in custom Newlan 6/250 button die cut with the same reamer as the chamber, run thru a 6mm mandrel and outside neck turned or using 250 Savage, just run 'em thru the 6/250 die and you are off - thinner necks but the brass is not near as good) but it beats shoveling snow :D


Safe at home...

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Trued Rem M700 action
Sleeved .67" diameter firing pin
Tubb Replacement Firing Spring
JBD Action Sleeve
3 tapered pillars used in bedding the sleeve/action to the stock
1.5 oz Jewell Trigger(HVR), bottom release, top safety adjustable with a spring change to 3.5 LBS
28" Gaillard Max HV 6mm barrel in 1:8 twist
McMillan New FClass Stock
Kelbly polished trigger guard
McMillan 3 way butt
McMillan 2 way check piece
Weaver #61 Bases milled to 20 MOA at 6" spacing
Burris Zee Rings with zeros for 1000 yds work and -20 and +20 for 1800 yd shots
Blueprinted Weaver T16 Scope with 60 MOA internal adj.
ScopeLevel
Butler Creek flip style scope covers
Newlan sizing die cut with same reamer as chamber
Custom bullet seater cut with same reamer
Various custom tools for reloading

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Second barrel is a 27" Hart with a .335 NK full 308 for shooting 155 Palma matches in F-F class

At home, with her sisters, safe in the crib, they are all my baby girls and I love 'em and feed them all regularly ;)

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I guess I'll have to make up a few (like 200 or so) warm bottles to feed her now, once the weather improves :)
 
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Keith nice rig. How do you like your McMillan? Looks like it keeps the center of mass down low.
 
Congrats...let us know if you ever want to put her up for adoption. Sometimes these kids can be more trouble than they're worth.:)

That switch barrel arrangement is intriguing, I've considered the concept from time to time, but more for a hunting rifle application than a target rifle.
 
Obtunded said:
That's a #####in' rig!z

Where did you get your stock?
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Obtunded, thanks. It's a McMillan and I got my stock from McMillan in Az. I ordered it Oct 10th and got it Jan 23rd, 2006. Good turn around IMO considering Xmas and the number os stocks they must have on the go at one time.

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How do you like your McMillan? Looks like it keeps the center of mass down low.
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Joe, I like the stock and yes she should ride the bags real nice. I added some stock tape and she tracks nice too. Fells like a bench gun on the bags, she slides so nice and easy. I have yet to feed her a "bottle", I'm on-call till next weekend and have to say in town so no reports till after then at the earliest. I will go SR 200 yd of load/fireforming test first in SWF 2 mile north of me, and then 300, 600, and 900 yd bench tests, then work my come-ups for all the Nokomis Northstar ranges, about 1hr drive away and I will have to set this up with my youngest daughter, so I have a target puller. Should keep me really busy for a few months, like most new borns :D

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Just out of curiousity, who blueprinted your scope? - dan
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Dan, I had Bill Ackerman did two for me. Sent Dec 1 thru the mail and he return ship'd Jan 20 and I got it Feb 2, 2006. Again, really good turn around IMO, all thru the mail and across the border and all the scopes Bill had to do over this period and it is golf season here he is now and I think he golfs some too.
 
Nine said:
OK.. since no ones asking and everyone's wondering...


How much did all that set you back? :D
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I had the trued action, Jewell and T16 as a trued HBR/Fclass rifle and the 30 Cal Hart barrel for years sat in the safe, waiting for the HBR barrel to go, still hasn't :) I est. these to be worth around $1525.

Add $some in smithing in the rifle and dies, etc., (sleeve, install sleeve, beding, etc, other smith action work, sleeve the bolt's firing pin and other special tools)

Add $some in new parts and tools for 6mm again and over 6 mths of buying them (Stock, base, bullets, Newlon die blank for the sizer die as a base, new 6mm barrel, blueprinting of the T16 and some exchange and duty). I was a die hard 30 Cal HBR shooter and sold off all my 6mm stuff when I figured group shooting was not good for my HBR shooting, two different rifles, too hard to be good with both, so I had to get some 6mm stuff again too.

The real total, everything in, with no extra 6mm stuff she is worth a hair under $5,500.00.00 Cdn

By selling off old shooting stuff worth almost $3000, (New T6 Weaver scope, home made utility Trailer, un-used new HBR Edge stock, two used Custom SS barrels, a .243 Parker Hale 1000C, a 308 Tikka M55, a Burris HBR 6x scope) and what I already had for parts in the old HBR/Fclass I could use, I only had to layout a little under $1100.00 for my new bad girl.

A lot less than I have spent on smokes in that same time frame, I'm sure.:rolleyes:
 
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Very nice rig, looks like alot of thought went into your project, it all looks right, I especially like the flat bottom sleeve on the action, a definite improvement. Great choice of components.
bigbull
 
Congratulations on the new arrival Kodiak99317. She is a darlin'. She must get her looks from her mom. Let us know if you need a babysitter :D :D
 
Nice rifle for "F" class or BR, but you will have some problems with a Palma match
with that stock, that is , unlesss you meant Palma bullets and just messin'round at home?:D

Cat
 
Is Jim Do-Gun still in business? Thought he was long gone. Jerry Tierney says these stocks are like a spring board bouncing after you fire, it will be interesting to see how yours does, at least you are not using a really big cartridge.
 
Ian, you might be right about more flex in the Mcmillan stock afterall it's forend is shallower by design...... at least its isn't as tipsy as some of the competition. Its hard to win all the features. Of course the design of area at the chamber / recoil lug is also important...we can't forget that.

Can you post the dimensional differences between your (Speedy's) stock and the McMillan including weight? It would be interesting to see the differences.

From what I have seen the distance between the bore centerline to forend bottom is significantly higher on Speedy's F class when compared to the McMillan.
 
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Ian,

I'm at Jim's shop now, coffee every Sunday with some of his close friends.

I have not feed my baby her "baby bottle" yet but I talked to Jerry as well. He said if you keep the front bag closer to the action, just in front of were the angle meets the flat, like 1/2" into the flat, it keeps the spring board effect manageable. Jim bedding a small portion in front of the sleeve for a barrel support, it really stiffness it up.

Instead of the aluminum cardboard McMillan uses now, they really should put in aluminum |_| channel in it from here the front to almost the action and then you would have something stiff. It not like BR were you are looking for weight saving. I added some telflon tape to the front and rear too and I will see how she slides and tracks as soon as it warms up.

I think she wil be fine. It sure is nicely balanced, to the point you can shoot it just like my silhouette rig. The design of this stock is like a Edge front on an slimmed down A5 rear. It does have a real low center of gravity.

Thanks guys for all the "cigars" or compliments on my new baby.

kds
 
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The one thing most miss is the weight issue. If you want to get up close the the 10 kg limit you will be adding lead, as we have done for several customers. The less the gun moves before the projectile is out of the barrel the more accurate it will potentially be, which is why the big kickers don't do too well. When you start adding dissimilar materials, like al channel, you can get into bonding issues. One of the differences between us and them is that we are very concerned that our shell is bonded to the fill which makes things much stiffer at lower weight limits. Weight is not an issue in this game but it is in many.
 
Keith, interesting to note there was no mention of the low center of mass. The sample stock I have is so tipsy (high center of mass and generously radiused corners) I think it needs out riggers.:D :D Oops, I forgot to mention and a crane to move....nicely finished though....obviously intended for a special application;)

As far as dissimilar metals or materials ...it (pending the intricacy of the design) becomes a significant factor with a significant temperature difference.I.E....20C to -20C. and then I suspect the design could be such to adequately handle those issues if those were the temperatures the product was expected to perform in.

On a side note, it is interesting to see the magnitude of force (typically in the hundreds of pounds) that could potentially be generated on a set of scope rings/receiver when you have an aluminum scope mounted on a steel receiver and expose the assembly to that kind of temperature swing...:eek:

Let us know how the unit does...
 
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